"Turn that man off" with Kimberly Clark

We sit down with Kimberly Clark who is one of the sweetest,  funniest and most original comics out there. We discuss preferring t.v. to snow, the slutty spectrum of newscasters, shaking down Walter Cronkite for the truth about the JFK assassination, being a CBS Page on The Price is Right and the Drew Carey show, stand up clubs in malls, "Blow Branford, Blow!", meeting Paul Mooney, watching Rodney Dangerfield perform in a bath robe, the importance of personal space and the anxiety attack before the anxiety attack.

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Transcript

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hi. Hi. To what we thought would happen. Yeah. We have a very special guest that accomplished. Yeah, the nicest in the business, but also one of the most prolific. Every time I see them perform, I see, like, new jokes. But my favorite thing about them is the. The cool way they they dish out their comedy. Yeah. Please welcome. The beautiful. The intelligent and super, super funny. Kimberly Clark. Yeah. You gave me. No. No. You have such a good outlook so many things. I actually when I think of butterflies, I think of Kimberly. The good best joke. That makes me think of Kimberly. Real, though. So real to me because I like hiking and doing that kind of and being outside, uh, like, really like spot on how I feel when I see. Graham Yeah. Kimberly Do you mind telling it? Yeah, telling the joke. Yeah. You okay? Specials, right? No, just. Just the one. Yeah. Okay. Because I saw someone. If someone was, like, paraphrasing your butterfly joke, I was like, No, I can't like another, uh, my name's. Not stealing. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But, it was not the same. I was like, it's so eloquent and beautiful. So, um. What season were you on? I was on season two of. They ready? Okay. There's only been two seasons, right? Right, right. Yeah. Okay. On the. First. Person. Hm. Um, but no, Kimberly Clark, you're such a great comedian. Yeah. And also, I love things. I see you like you are like a lighthouse to me. Mhm. Oh, really? Tough time when I lost my dad and I did your show at the Steve Allen. Uh huh. And I was going through it, you know, because like, had come to terms with the death and everything, but I think my body started like manifesting the grief and I had pneumonia. Oh yeah. I was just coming out of having like walking pneumonia. And I did your show, but I still had an inhaler, like a pack of. Oh, that. Was like, you're just so kind of me. You helped me out that night, and, you know, you're just, like, really, really encouraging me. And every time I hear your name or see your name somewhere, I'm like, Oh, my God. She's like, My light. Oh, wow. That's sodium. Thank you. Amber. But like, you Really? Yeah. I'll never forget that. Oh, denies her legendary. Oh, that is sweet. Well, thanks. Um, yeah, it was a rough time. And, like, you know, we all know each other as comics and everything, so you're just like, Oh, you know, good acquaintance or whatever. Yeah. And I'm. I don't really, like, know you. Mm hmm. We've done a lot of shows. Yeah. Together. But when you did that, I was like, Oh, my God, she's my friend. Yeah, we have to see each other more often. And I didn't know where you that you live so close by. We need to hang out because, you know, I feel like I don't ever, make new friends. Well, you know, this is the whole podcast is like Daniel and I are new friends getting to know each other, and it's like, you know, I it's this. Oh, no, that's amazing. Dana It's hard because I'm both my parents are still with us and but we talk about it. Yeah, my mom and I talk about like, I'm like, you better not me. Like. Oh. I get it because it's like we're. Yeah, whatever you call it, you're in the third and fourth quarter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. It's one of those things. So I. Did it. Yeah. I find death is the one time where I'm like, I actually don't want to perform. Oh, yeah. It's like being under the weather. I can do all this stuff with like that. They just want to eat. More with my, my mom. My mom is my whole act, so I hope she hangs around. On my back in New York. Syracuse. Yeah, there. And I have a sister there and then another sister in Albany. And a brother in Texas. Oh, that's. I grew up in Syracuse. Yeah. Where are you in the holidays? Uh, I'm a baby. Oh, baby, you're the baby. Oh, the the sweetness Kimberly. What did you watch as a kid that made you decide that you wanted to be a comic an actor? Was there something that like pivotal moment or something that you just said, Okay, this is what I want to do. I did was watch TV. Is there? No, I seriously I was letting two times in my life. I love to do that. I still go. I go to you know, I'm old and I still go to Big Bear to go tubing, you know, to get into entertainment. And I loved that's all. My mom and I used to go sledding together. All that was all we ever did. No, because, you know, because I grew up near Buffalo, so always in the snow. But I love doing that and broke my foot a few times, like skiing, trying to walk because I was drunk at 16 and trying to ski. But yeah, I like wanted to be. I wanted to be. Yeah, but I was not met. Oh, that's so funny. TV. I knew all the programs. Yeah, Yeah, this is right. The Young and the Restless. I But you, you asked me specifically about what made me want to go on the comedy thing about, like, all the TV shows I used to watch, you know, to watch Electric Company. That was kind of, Oh, yeah, my how now I look back and I'm like, Oh my God, like, you need to be high. Was it was right. It really. Yeah. What was the other TV show you said? You surprised by those together when you just. Named Ashley Young? See. So you watch. Soap operas by yourself? I used to go yes, I used to watch the CBS lineup. Oh, wow. The rest of us, too, as the world turned. And. Well, actually. Baldwin Beautiful. That. Yeah. Then as the world turns. And then I'm gonna like to watch that whole year. All Yeah. Wow. Uh. Uh, electric company is what made you a comedian. Now, you know, I used to, as a kid. I like. hmm. The one woman show. Yeah. Those are pretty funny. I used to watch all the sitcoms. Yeah. Did you have cable when you were a kid? Yeah, we had cable. remember watching Richard Pryor. It was a rerun of his. And my mom was like, Turn that nasty man. Uh huh. That I used to watch the late night shows. I saw the last cars, and then my grandmother hated Johnny Carson. Oh, really? She was like, Why does he like it? His own joke. Wow. Man. Um, it was my grandmother in Florida. My maternal grandmother. Uh huh, Actually. Watch it at home. Yeah, I was in West Palm Beach. She was like. Yeah, watching. Here. I Oh. Wow. Like all in the family. Paternal grandmother did not like Archie Bunker. Oh. Uh huh. What about Sanford and son. Of Sanford and son? Oh, my God. Can we talk about one of the times I was the loud neighbor? Yeah, I had to check my phone. What is it? Who is Aunt Esther? Oh, I love her. I used to. I love her. I couldn't wait till she'd come in. Like, whatever the episode was, I was like, I want that woman to come. No one has glued together the best of Aunt Esther and put it on YouTube. Oh, my bad. Like one of those days. Were you in bed too long? Mm hmm. Yeah. Laughing so hard because one page is the best on the demarte. She was a standout. She's so funny. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know. No, I didn't know. I didn't know that she was stand up there. Oh, what. I think too. It surprised me. went to a party that was that Bill Meyers, and I asked for the bathroom there was like a, you know, a host there who was kind of helping everybody because it's kind of like a park almost his place. And they said we'd take a left at that, first room, then right, and then a left at the stripper pole and he is last person I would think of as an exotic dancer. I would never think that he practiced. But I love that. Yeah. It's it's all about skin contact. I know, I know. But I like thinking of him on the on the pole. He wouldn't do it that night, but Yeah, When did you come to California? I came out here in 2000. I really want. To do Santa. No, So. I came out here directly. after college, I want to work in TV because I was a broadcast journalism major. Oh, wow. To Arizona State. Uh huh. Broadcast journalism was interesting. That's what I. That's what I wanted to do. I mean, it's kind of amazing. Yeah. I didn't. I was trying to. I was trying to get into the the Syracuse, the High Newhouse School of Journalism. But I couldn't actually, you know, we couldn't afford it because they weren't letting me in right away. They said I'd have to do a year and then I could get into it. And I was like, I forget. So yeah. Yeah. Uh. Mike Tirico A lot of white sportscasters and. Uh. So what kind of, what kind of, what were your personal. That went to Arizona State? Yeah. while I have to get into. It, like, well, yeah, yeah. Well, there was a black newscaster in Syracuse named Jackie Robinson. Mm hmm. WOMAN Uh huh. A black woman. Uh huh. Oh, like, I always, like, looked up. Mm hmm. A couple of times in person. Oh, cool. And so that was kind of my track and of the, And turning in high school. Mm hmm. Oh, let me write promos and things like that. Oh, that's great news. But, you know, it's so weird too, when I come, like, come from L.A. and I come back home and I love the newscasters back home, like they're covered. And they look like they're going to go to church. Oh, my God. Yes. They. The women look, especially to the women doing the weather look like cocktail waitresses. Yeah, they've got like that. Yeah, they've got, they've got they have got dresses on their there. There's like a green, they were a v necks that are down to their crotch, they were like of this really like a, like a disco dress. I don't. Know. It's a. Yeah. L.A. you're like the young lady has clothes on. Oh yeah. Yeah. There's a little bit of professionalism. Yeah. God almighty. She's my favorite local. All right. Yes. No, but this other one, she looks. It's just real housewife hair. Yeah, Yeah, but she had. It was like her. She had smoky eye. Yeah. Fucking with sleeves. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. I mean, like, you don't obstruct the map. Well, I remember. Yeah, I remember when women, you know, reporting the news didn't have acrylics that were like three inches long. Yeah. The Kardashian thing slash real has given everybody this. Fucking tacky look. Glam. But it's tacky. Right? If that would. Yeah. And but everybody, that's what everyone's looking like. Uh huh. Um, no, I would I almost went into broadcasting because I was so obsessed with just like, repeating the same headlines every 30 minutes. So let's turn you around. I was so bad in school, and I didn't want to do any of that. Uh huh. And frankly, my real name was Robin Quivers doing the news on Howard Stern. I was like, I just like someone who's just reading the news. Plus, she has a really good voice. Yeah, Amazing voice. In a news. Structure. Oh, right, right, voice. We're having news. You should just be that before 911 in the news was not as insane. Mm hmm. Yeah. It was so boring. Uh. That's what I love. Shows. Like, wow, someone just sits there, reads the same fucking story. The Pope was in Detroit today. Yeah, you. If you. If it bleeds, it leads. Oh, really? She and I went to the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism, so I got to meet 100 hearing aids. Oh, sharp as a. Well. With it. And he came to one of our classes and talked to an amazing question. Did you ask. Him? Yes. And I asked him about the JFK assassination and if it if he believed it was a conspiracy. Wow. Huh. He got a little rough. Yes. How amazing. Something that Oliver Stone, director man cooked. Oh. He was very like, passionate of. I would say most emotional was passionate about. Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah, I think I've talked about it before, but there's a photo of when Oswald shot, right? Uh huh. That very famous photo. Yeah. From the other side, there's another picture of all the journalists who were in the room, and I believe it's Bob SCHIEFFER. Dan Rather was the other guy. Bob. Jim Lehrer Uh huh. I want to say maybe. Tom Brokaw. Oh. Hmm. Journalists are all in the room. Yeah. When that happened and there's a photo, I mean. Wow, wasn't there the Lehrer Report? Wasn't there a shift? Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Love was great. She, um. Same thing. It's like her voice was so I just loved, like. She had a great. Yeah, journalism. Yeah, but what was the what switched it over? Was it working in TV? The you know what? When I took the journalism classes, they were not, like, very supportive of us. They were like, There are a lot of people that want to do this. Mm hmm. And they're like, 70% of you probably end up in advertising or PR and like, What is this? Yeah, No. This is the part that got me out of there. When they were talking about focus groups, they test. Uh huh. And you're, you're able to turn around and they tell you whether you should cut your hair or leave it. Wow. A thing that they do for journalism. I don't know if they. Forget you like TV or whatever. Right? Like they do they do test audiences. And so if the news station I think Oprah has even has a story about like the news station talking about her eyes being fired. Wow. A lot of these journalists, they will get plastic surgery or get their hair changed or whatever. And the hair is really sensitive for me as a I'm not and I like to do different things with my hair. Mm hmm. Yeah. And you got notes on that? I didn't get notes on it, but I was just listening to what you have to go through to be, like, in front of the camera like that. And I was like, uh, maybe I need to. And then at the time too, I was getting more into, like, creative writing more. So I was in like, a spoken word poetry group. Mm hmm. Get into that. And that's kind of like when I kind of knew stand up was a thing I didn't know. Mm. Oh, right. Okay, So whenever I get out to the might to say a poem, people are already laughing because they're like, Oh. Oh, that's great. This might be something. Yeah. Is that where you, like, found your voice? definitely. It was like the beginning stages of finding. Yeah. so, like on campus In Arizona, you said was there did it have like a cafe thing or whatever where you could go and try out even just poems and stuff like that? Like there was kind of like a like a scene of young people. Yeah, we started on campus. Oh, wow. Our shows and stuff where we did poetry. There was music, some visual art as well right afterwards. so it wasn't really like an open mic. Hmm. Yeah. Huh. Well, what's so funny is they still do these open mic shows now, like after we were. Uh huh, one of the guys that was like the founding member was he like, does a poetry event in Phenix? Oh, that's really nice. Oh, it's awesome. That's really good. I'm not doing poetry. Right? Right. Yeah. Ha ha ha. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, how was comedy coming out of the pandemic for you? Was a different. It was scary. Did you? Because you had a special. During the pandemic, which was nice, it seems like career wise, like things that are happening during. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. but there were so many ways to not be able to ride that wave during pandemic. Yeah. To be booked. Yeah, it really kind of. It was a lot. Yeah. And even like, getting that call that I got and I was like, okay, now where am I going? Yeah, well, nobody around. Yeah. Where you can't go indoors. Anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Like shows outdoors. Yeah. Mhm. Um, comics that were on season two that were actually already on the road. Oh yeah. Yeah. No, but I don't know. Rogue. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I do like an outdoor show at UCLA, which was like really cool. It was crazy too, because it's hours before I was supposed to do that. So we had this crazy as, like, family drama zoom. Call. Oh, no, no, like it. After I got off the call, I was like, I really wanted to stay. Oh, no, that's awful. This was right before I got the call that I got. They ready to go anyways. And so I get to UCLA and I was like, Anybody here ever had family? And one sick secret zoom call during. The pandemic and everyone's just buzzing about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a great time. Uh, next week, Tiffany calls me and I'm like, Oh, my. God. Oh, that's so great. Oh, I love that one. Right? Yeah. It's amazing. I had to do a zoom funeral during pandemic. Have you had to do that? Mm, it is. Well, first of all, turn your camera off. Just shot. Yeah. I did go through, like, all that bullshit, but the best part, it was like it was so strange because it was. So you're watching. You're watching the eulogy, you're watching people crying. What? Yeah. Okay, so you see the grid of family members. Oh, it's even how is like a small funerals? Embarrassing, but when it's a small zoom. Right? There's even like that. Uh, so everyone's just staring at the camera. Mm hmm. Some people are eating. Mm. And yet each person you take it, there's an organ in, there's. There's like, a program. Mm hmm. And people are just telling their friends, But some of this, Harvey, we're really far away together, but couldn't. Mm hmm. But there's one member of the family who's sort of positive, but I'm not going to help them. Mm hmm. Whatever. They're on the fucking LGBT spectrum. Uh, they out themselves all the time, even though they don't actually say it. Mm hmm. What was this guy's picture tribute to his mother? So I'm not making fun of him for losing his mom, but he was like, I edited this together. Please enjoy. And it was this video footage of his mom. And I edited it to It's Raining Men. And I couldn't do it. Paid for a cry. Okay. Not only my, uh, they must forgive. First of all, nobody knows. Who paid. Me. I I'm the only man. And the fucking. Oh, no. It was like, Thank God my screen's off and now I have to mute myself. I was dying. Oh. I guess what? You have to listen to the whole song. So this. You know, uh. Not the minute I heard, I was like, You've got to be kidding me. I was like, Actually. There's some of the who am putting up the hill that right? Whatever the fuck that is. I mean. Hill Uh huh. Okay. I was fucking. I was. Being lowered into the. Ground and I. Don't know the hell. She was. She was. That's a great question, actually, because it was she was like, I was. Is it Charisma dies. That's I mean. You're just dunked into a bad scream. And then next you wrap. You want. To be cream, the ties. You go down the slide. So this. Oh, hell, I love that. You've worked on game shows. Then I know you did. Which Kimberly, you said you've had so many jobs out here. You got a job. My memories. But yes, I was a page. Okay. Oh, okay. And so what is a page do. To. You then? You wear the little red jacket in like for a price is right. Particularly they made us we wrote the nametags for people. Uh, so you had. To write, like, very skinny. Mm hmm. Some of the names. The names are, like, really long. So I learned how to print, like, very skinny. Yeah. There's kind of. That, though. Yeah. Look like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we did that. We also had to go through the mail. People will write letters to, like, the Barker beauty. Uh huh. Complained there are too many black people at contestant's role and. Oh, how creepy. Like jail people will, right? We love letters. Oh, yeah. Beauty. You were there in the Bob Barker days, Not the Drew Carey days. Yeah, No, I was. I worked on a Drew Carey show before he was on, oh. On a sitcom. Yes. I now pays for a pay. Mm. After I was living like my mom's dream life. Those are, like her two. Favorite to. Work on, at CBS as a page. I went up to, you know, I work for the last two seasons on that. Oh, yeah, I was there during Bob Barker. y0y. Forgetting things when I was there, right? Like, cause sometimes the answers would be in his pocket. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. In his pocket. And read in like he will. I forget which pocket. Like little things you could tell, right? Yeah. Pull out the dry cleaning receipt. Which, by well. Up there. Yeah. He said he addressed me about something too because I was like still. Yeah. Because we had to stand by the stage. Mm hmm. While the filming was going on. You can't side. Ukraine. Ha. Okay. Okay. But yeah, we used to stand by the stage. I remember doing that. It was so long ago. Mm. But I remember, like, he would take questions from the audience. Mm hmm. Never ask. How do you become you know, a page like the people were in a red jackets and he was a young lady. How did you get your job? And he was talking to me and I was so, like, stunned. And he was like, this young lady doesn't even know how she got he ha I know. Ha ha. With the new crew of Barker Beard or whatever they're called now. Mm hmm. But there's there's a lot. Anyway, my sister was in a wedding party where she's a bridesmaid and one of the bridesmaids. Is that Barker? Oh. Me, my bride. I'm like, I want to ask a hundred million questions. She's like, Well, can I just taking a fucking photograph with someone whose job title is Beauty? How everyone's in that same shitty dress that she looks like a movie star because she's a model. Oh, man. Now that's a lot. You have to put makeup on every day if you're going to do that job right. Oh, that's a lot. I know, but I mean, that's a lot to live up to. Parker Beauty. I'm obsessed with, like, 89. These prices are the oil prices, right? The prices look like crap. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because when you get up on a dull. Because they don't want anything shiny. Oh, okay. So light is crap. I don't like. I will like this in my garage. Oh. Where? What was it? What were you doing when you were working Those jobs were you were like, I want to work at CVS and I want to be a page because. I was trying to get on a TV show to be a pay to be a writer. Oh, okay. That was the track at the time. Yeah. I also worked at the Laugh Factory during that time. Which was in. Hollywood. Yeah. In that place. Hmm. Crazy energy. Am I. Wrong? It does. I feel like it's got, like, a weird energy. I feel like there's something, like, buried under that room, something or dealing or something. And then there was also the offices that were, like, across the street. Kind of like, Yeah, yes, I used to work in there, which is, uh, old as well, and have a lot of stuff in. Yeah, But I was working like three jobs at one time. Yeah. Piece them on together because nobody was paying anything. Oh yeah. To the experience. Yeah. Was he an asshole to work for? No. Okay. It's actually nice. Okay. I could see him. Going. And I was just like. And that's what encouraged me to not go there the first time I tried standup. Oh, yeah, Yeah. I did not go there at all. Yeah. I went straight to the family story. Mm hmm. Is? I don't know. I just felt like people would respect me because they knew me as okay. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't want that. I mean, I just want to go somewhere. Just a clean slate. Jamie was cool to me. I want to keep my relationship cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Years later, I did a show. He was like, Sweetie, why didn't you tell me? Ha ha ha. Jamie, you know? Ha ha ha. How do you. So you said you went straight to the Comedy Store. You like it there? No weirder there. Yeah, it actually is weirder there. The Comedy Store. I just feel like there's. I just think there's something really bizarre, like there are people that are in line to get in and then there are people that are kind of in line, though, that seem to work. There or just I don't know. I feel like I feel like the whole thing is a front for something else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a when I lived in Austin, I was in a neighborhood, but out of nowhere there were too, like convenience stores, what was called the Stop and save. And the other called a shopping center, right? Uh huh. One day, like I was a college kid, so I bought all my groceries at the gas station. Right. And I remember one time I was like, Oh, my cereal's expired. That's weird. And I like I was like, my milk is also expired. So I went back to return it to the gas station. All of it was expired. That's weird. And then across the place, they had like Newsweek, US Weekly there, where all the magazines from when the Space shuttle Columbia had exploded. Weird had happened like months before, right? Yeah. So then one day I caught on the news that one of them had been robbed, but I didn't know which one it was. The stock was over the shop. Uh huh. But then it turned out it was an inside job from the other guys. They robbed the other ones. They could collect the insurance. Oh, damn. Oh, my God. Was it from all there? Sure. It was expired. There's something weird. Oh, yeah. I wonder what they did. Like, did anybody try to buy stuff? What do you. What do? You from for what was in sex and drugs? Oh, yeah. So nobody just wandered in other than you wandered in there to actually buy something. That's where they were. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Collecting. You know, they're conducting illegal business in the my fucking fagot houses wondering I'm just sitting which block of Raisin Bran. Yeah, yeah. And, uh, I, uh, looking at the man. So what do you. We, we talked about earlier. I like to tour. Uh, do you travel a lot? Do you like touring? I was a song. Yeah, I was just talking about this. Um, I did a date with Ida Rodriguez. Mm hmm. I have. Fun. Yeah. Yeah. I think it all depends on who you're with. Yeah, Instances are because I did do colleges for me. Mm. I was that. You know. I some good, some were bad. I liked them when they were bad. Did you. Because you just like you have to I, i it took me a single to learn it. It meant I. Like to and it. All. I did a college in Fairbanks, Alaska and it was it was in a cafeteria. And the young woman who was showing me around like that day before I got there was like, yeah, you know, and it was in the winter and it was pretty dark and it she was, yeah. You know, you have to do whatever you can to, you know, try and stay happy. And I was like, Oh fuck, I'm going to be performing here tomorrow. This is going to be a disaster. Everybody's so bummed out to begin with. But they were actually really nice. I think they were glad just to have a comic come out there. So it was fine. I did all. Right. just like, going from one club to another. And I don't know why I had this. I just had this sad feeling like, Oh, why don't people do coke anymore? And and they probably still do, but I just don't know. Where to get it. And it's like it's cause, like in the nineties it was. Everywhere and I don't know I is that Yeah, it still. Is. I just don't Yeah. Whenever I was at a bachelor party one of the bachelors goes you look like a guy who, you know, sort of get blown. I, I mean maybe I do look like him, but I don't know where to get it. Yeah, yeah. have you gone back home and done like, standup in, like Syracuse or. I did during the summer. I just did like a set at the final bone. I didn't even go there the last time I was there, you know? Um. Sorry. You know. Yeah, that's like a plus. The the funny bone is, like, in the middle of the mall. Oh, yeah. That makes things weird. I don't like that. That's, like, a whole different. Yeah. Saw this happen twice now where you brought a friend, which I never really encourage anyway. Right. Like, there's such a I'd rather perform in front of strangers. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's not right. Because then you have to take care of that or see what they're, you know, and listen to their bullshit afterwards. My favorite thing is, Well, I thought you were funny. Oh, geez. Thanks. Yeah. God almighty. In your bond for two strangers you like, who cares? Yeah, You know, you're. You're like, I'm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But to. The right. Or there's the fake like a kind of like you are so good. They give you a look and rub your. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Analyze why the audience wasn't laughing. Yeah. I just think. Oh. Around me, we're laughing. Oh, my God. I'm like, God, we're all sitting outside where we're going. Yeah, but yeah. Were you at home the times? It was the, the improper the Ontario one at the mall. Yes. And then the other one. Oh shit. Also at the fucking. Oh. Take the hit or Miss Irvine line. I feel like it's a little bit more outside than. Yeah. Oh, that one's the Schomburg. Have you been to that one in Illinois? It's not Chicago is. Sorry. Yeah. Shit. It's the same thing. Yeah, the people. It's just. I don't. Know. I feel like I'm performing at the AMC. Nah. Yeah. Opening for the movie. Yeah. Man. You you were the baby growing up? Yes. What are your siblings? Were any of them like performers? Were you? A performer as a kid. Yeah. I used to perform for Mrs. Cryer across the street. I used to love it because my is such a big gap between me and my siblings. Mm hmm. They're almost like junior parents. Oh, okay. Teenagers and more. But my mom used to be majorette, so she still had her. Oh, you know, in front of the house and dance and do all kinds of. Oh, you know, seems to tell the world that Kimberly, she is so entertained, and I could just watch her. Oh, it's. We. We had a porch that It could be a stage. Oh, wow. Yeah, but I did shit like, dance with my sister's pompoms and that kind. Of shit. Like I should still signed up for the football team. You know what I mean? Like, uh. On a solid gold vein. Hmm. The last is how I was, like, dancing. I remember watching Soul Train and having a kind of a crush on Don Cornelius and thinking, I kind of wish I knew anybody that dress like that or that look like that. But I don't know. I was just like, Yeah, I could probably look like. I could probably dress like him with the ties and everything, but I just thought, like, how do you get to be on a show like that and dance? Yeah, I think it moved from chicago to L.A. Yeah. Did you ever watch it? Went on to the nineties. I mean, I think it stopped and started. Yeah, because I remember we had a new pool and swimming in the pool on Saturday and my dad had seriously got, you know, because it followed Casey Kasem's countdown. Okay. Oh, yeah, I remember that too. There was the end of the cartoons with Casey Kasem, and then it was Soul Train, and then Saturday morning was, like, officially over. Yeah, I was. It was over. So I was on the pool and getting on my float and you. You just barely adjust to the water temperature. And I was so excited to was like, Son, Shanice is haunting the song and she was lip sync. I love it. Yeah. Uh, wow. It's so funny. It's very. Uplifting. Yeah. The reverse side of the cause single just had the instrumental, so. Oh, really? Yeah. For first. Before I. Left. Oh, yeah. Wow. As a funny man. Actually, when I was through. Cause she's married to Flex Alexander, who is an actor. Remember that show? One on one, huh? He was the dad. Okay. If you Google him, you will immediately. You mentioned. Yes, like her in Flex came into the laugh track. Wow. And they were so nice. Like they gave everybody. Oh, my. Oh, just beautiful people. Uh huh. She's so cute. She's very. She is very. Who are famous people? Because you're like, If I was a TV nerd, that's like all I do. I watch movies. I love movies. Mm hmm. I think. Are you more into movies and TV? gosh, I remember, like, seeing a lot of TV movies. I so old. I had a crush on, Robby Benson and Robby Benson. He's a director now, but he was in a lot of movies in the late seventies. Eighties. Yes, Yes. I remember that. Yeah, He was sad. And she went blind. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And tripping over and tripping over the roses. We forgot about the roses. Really? That's the only fucking thing. She's blind and skating and she won. And that's the one thing that you traipse up. Yeah, I totally had a crush on him. And also my mom would say, my mom and I watch everything together. So she said he has such a funny voice. Well, doesn't have a weird voice. I don't know. Your voice has been in my ear the whole goddamn time, and I just watch Robby Benson. That's all I want to see. Are there famous people you've worked with or met that, like, for you? Or you're like, I can't believe this is work in my life. Laugh Factory again. Um, I got to meet Paul Mooney. That was. Oh, wow. He's such a good writer. He's funny. Yeah. Yeah. His book. Yeah, his book is so funny. But when he met me, he was like, Jamie, you hired a black woman. I have shop, and he has big lips. I was like, Oh, my God. I really do. Oh, he was so nice to me. Mm hmm. You mean, like, advise? Oh, he told me you had to be fearless in this industry. And that was before I even try standup, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Here's how you got to be fearless. It's so important to be, uh. Yeah, I saw Rodney Dangerfield. Mm hmm. Wow. He was wearing a robe. Wow. What did he. Do at the laugh? He was wearing it like a bathrobe. That's what it looked like. Yeah. Yeah. Like it Smoking? Yeah, like a smoking dragon slash bathrobe. Oh, wow. Rated the room. Wow. Wow. You actually running Dangerfield. Crazy, right? Yeah. Were you, like, a fan of standup? I mean, I was. Like, yeah. I mean, I as a kid, like, I watch stuff, like, you know, of course, Eddie Murphy's SNL. Um, my dad, actually, his favorite comedians of were Flip Wilson. Oh, I remember. I loved the. And Red Skelton, which is, like, the weirdest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I knew who Red Skelton was as a kid. Yeah, I didn't know. And then my dad used to also listen to the radio, so it's like. Oh, okay. Play them. So I know about, like, the great Gildersleeve. Yeah. Jack. Jack Benny. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so it was really cool to, like, be exposed to that. Mhm. So I didn't know I was being indoctrinated until. The. War. Started. Yeah. Yeah. So that's kind of cool is like, oh I have on this like groundwork that was already. Yeah. I didn't like put down purposely but it was just there. I remember like laughing with my mom like really hard when Flip Wilson did Geraldine, like I was like, it's just so damn funny. Yeah. Really? They know what the boyfriend. There's a few things he doesn't know. He doesn't. Know. Wasn't well. You know, Martin was like. Oh. Okay, okay, here's one. This is such a weird wormhole. But he's like, Do you want to watch Little Shop of Horrors? I was like, Not really. Hmm. But out of nowhere, that he's not that kind of fagot. But he knows every inch of that movie, right? Oh, yeah. So when I. When he doesn't know who Martin is, I'm like, you know, the backup singers, the doo wop girls. I'm like, I was like, Have you ever used this damn gene? I mean, anything? Ha ha. Ha. But the whole point of me trying to get him to all of this was to get to Shouldn't. Yeah. Oh, so funny. Mm. Yeah. Yeah. Flip Wilson doesn't get any credit for being brave enough to be a full on. You know, being in drag. Yeah. And funny. Yeah. Like, there's nothing like, anti-gay, queer about it. He's playing a. Woman. Right. Yeah. And there's a. There's a lot of respect to it. My grandmother loved Red Skelton, Right? So we would watch. Mm hmm. her house, had all the clown paintings. Oh, wow. Hanging. Wow. They. He painted. Then they. They would do prints. You could buy them for. Himself when he painted. Oh. Yeah. Clown ceramics and jewel like a display. Oh, my God. Like, I didn't know all of it till way later, but, yeah, she had, like. Oh, my God. And she actually used to. date John Wayne Gacy before everyone found out what he did. Like as a clown and. Yeah. Dingy. Yeah. I thought you said she dated John Wayne Gacy. My mom went on a double date with you's. He was the guy that killed. He dressed as a clown and killed a lot of young guys. My mom went on a Yeah. That's what he was. Serial killer. Yeah, okay. I've heard that name, but I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no, no. Yeah, it seemed like some sort of. Yeah. Yeah. But he was like, you know. My big. Churchgoer. And double date with a guy. Colin Davis. Mm hmm. No, I was kidding you about the. I. He's a murderer. Nobody's kidding about John Wayne Gacy. I know your grandmother didn't date John Wayne Gacy. My mom went on a date with Colin Davis. Look it up. It was a for we're good. People love to say it was the O.J. trial of the that the, uh, Heather Locklear, your played the wife in the TV movie. Okay. If that gives it any kind of street cred. But no, it was okay. So it was before he tried to murder his ex-wife. My mom was on a double date with his whatever current wife, who? They're all these rich ass people. Wow. Mega rich. Yeah. $500 million back at the church. And so my mom. A little tiny. My little mom, little tiny Sue. Just trying to make small talk on a date with all these rich people. She looks at the girlfriend and goes, So what do you do for a living, huh? And she goes, I don't I. That's really nice. Great. What a quick bitch move. Oh, but that's really great. No, I don't. Her husband or I don't have to work. I was like, you should look it up is a great story. Okay. But can you, as a lawyer, a rich lawyer and his wife divorced them and she got everything and he couldn't handle it, so he hid in the house and shot trying to kill her, but kill everybody else. And but. Wow, it's. A wild story as. Wild And your mother was that up close on that person. And so it's she was on top of people with even weirder is so one of the people who was murdered was a former basketball player who was dating the ex wife at the time, who my aunt dated. Wow. He that guy owned a bar. So when my mom went on the double date, it was to that bar. And my aunt and my mom knew all these. They would they were periphery to all these Dallas-Fort Worth people. Wow. Was look at us because he got away with it. Yeah. And the lawyer, his lawyer's name is something like a racehorse. Yeah. Texas is just like a sewer of greed and everything else. I mean, like, the people really act. I mean, every place. I mean, so many places are really awful like that, but I mean. Tied to that kind of. Yeah. It's like. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I love Texas a weird way. Yeah. Especially now and I think it political, but the fucking psycho abortion thing that's happening right now. Oh, it's fucking horrible. Have you seen the Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton? You've seen this son of a bitch. Uh. when you see how fucking mutated his eyes are. Yeah. Fucked up his face is. It's like it's hard to watch someone who's so anti. Abortion clearly should have been one of the abortions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like he's just. He's like walking, like master class and y not everybody is chosen. Oh, my God. He looks like. Mm. One of my favorite lines ever is Lawanda Page to Jimmy Stewart at the roast. Ha. I can't see. You're a fine actor. I can't say nothing about you. Nothing bad about you except your mama. How to fed you better. Ha ha. Ha. You look like a pear. You look like spareribs that have been gouged by the Harlem Globetrotters. Wha. That's great. All the best to everyone for your jokes. Uh huh, uh huh. She's like everyone's. And she calling you a big dog. She goes, I have news for you. Turkey. Ha ha ha is. Oh. Yeah. Um, so. Okay, what are you. What are you working on? What? Where is comedy for you now? Um, you know, I'm going to come out with the album event. Oh, great. You said you got more than one special. I know, I. Yeah, I got the one special. I got the special before the album, you guys. Funny, because I'm like this. Comics have been doing this for less time than I am. They have, like, five albums. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Why? I don't. Either. You don't have to have one. Yeah. Yeah. You did specials, like later. Yeah. Record album one. I see these younger comics. I like them. You okay? Yeah. Everybody story is different. Yeah, right. Crack on them. Yeah. I just like trying to get one. Yeah, I have to be. I think I glitch on the album thing because I'm on this weird cusp of like when I was 18, 19, 20 was when CDs were turning into M.P. three. Mm. And that kind of thing was no longer marketable. So, you know. Yeah. So to have an audio merge, even in comedy, I was like, that's probably just like a by far, you know? Yeah, it is. Not at all. Yeah. You get your stuff played on, you know, serious or whatever. Right. Yeah. They play your specials on there too and it's kind of nice to get a check. Oh sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't feel real to get paid for. Yeah, like they can take it. Take it back. Ha ha ha. Uh huh. That's how I feel. And the few times I get paid for standup. Yeah, you. Ha ha. Ha. You live. But you. I. Yeah, Yeah, I can. God. Go on. Is that like, a thing I always wonder? Like, people like Mega-successful, are they not? Is it not like a plague? Where are you? Like, Oh, my God, I'm going to lose it all. I'm going to lose it all. Yeah. Okay, everybody. I think everybody suffers from imposter syndrome. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I felt very. Like bad here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Kim. Kimberly, are you seeing anyone? What? You're. But you're. I have to be a Jew when I ask or a half Jew and ask about relationships. And not know I had a break up like, right before or not. Right. Right before the pandemic went in 2008. Mm hmm. I was with that guy for, like, ten years. Hmm. Hmm hmm. That's a. Long time. So they say it's a certain amount of time. Like, the longer the relationship, the longer the recovery. Uh. Yeah, that's right. Jump into anything. Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, as I would be a couple of years and then a couple of years, like, morphed into the pandemic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. I mean, I went on a couple of days there and pandemic, you, you know, not ready. Yeah, Yeah. That's, I feel kind of like I need to start dating. People are like, get on the abs the way I want to. Yeah, Yeah. Fucking file town. So I tried to. Yeah, I mean, yeah. And then and well, yeah, yeah. I feel like pandemic made me. I was like, never date but I think it turned the loneliness to made me codependent. Mhm. Right. Yeah. Without like if I had just turned me into that or was like I don't, it was like oh now I need. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Maybe I could see that I want a situation where I, I don't want to live with any. Mm mm. Mm hmm. Yeah. I would want to just have but separate dwellings but still be in. Yeah. If I get married, you know, I can we live in separate. Oh, yeah. One of my favorite evangelists, the crab families. They had, uh, matching everything. Uh huh. They had a bunch of mansions, but they always have too. Uh huh, Yeah. Well, that's how Goldie and, Kurt Russell have stayed together so long. They Yeah, they have. an enclave. Like, I guess maybe his house is down the street from her house, but in this little community, you know, whatever it is, like a cul de sac or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody wants a roommate. Yeah, people do that, but he has a nice place and I think he likes it. Yeah. Yeah. Like I don't want to take that away. Yeah. Yeah. And I think after a certain period of time of like living alone or, like, liking your things the way they are, I just don't want to have those conversations. Oh, yeah. Out housekeeping. Oh, yeah. You know, you do you the way you do you. Yeah, yeah. Me the way I do me because I don't. I feel like that was part of the destruction of my life. Mm. If you're not. Comfortable, yeah. It makes you mental or not mental right now so I can shit wrong at home. It makes me like you just can never be. That's even when having, like, noisy neighbors. I was like, This is why I don't make friends with neighbors. Yeah, like I. Yeah, I feel like that's kind of just like hanging. Yeah. Knock on my door. I've even been like that with roommates. I mean, there was only one time where I moved to friends, but the other roommates, they were just roommates. Yeah. It was a roommate relationship. Yeah. I'm not watching Alias. Yeah. I ach. Haha. Yeah. And this is not. I don't know. It's just better to keep a business where the hard conversation is. Is not that hard. Yeah. Yeah. I do that. Yeah. Don't you think it's hard to be like a creative person or like a writer and go in the other room and, like, close the door. Mm. Well, you know, someone's watching Northern Exposure. Oh, yeah, Yeah. Just I find that as. An. Interruption. And my boyfriend's in me. Mm hmm. Make me a neater person. Okay. Yeah, me too. But I guess against my will, I have to. How I really feel. Yeah. There's no feel like a resentful a little bit. Well, yes, definitely. But even even even though he's in the other room. Kimberly, I don't I don't mind saying that and I have to face it, but no, but in a way too. I know. Like, I'm so fucking disorganized. It's better to be neat and to put things away because, you know, I can't even care. It was making fun of me. He said Like that. I can't even be on time here, like in our own house for this thing. But it's just like. Yeah, I a roommate that would force you to compose, but if you put the wrong thing, like something compostable in the garbage out of the garbage, but still leave it on the counter because I had to physically put, uh, his in that, That's. That's, that's really. He needs to live. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sounds right. Child. Like, it's not like I need to be relearned like, yeah, things like that would happen. Yeah. And same we had a big fight. The biggest fight was over sesame seed oil, which is expensive. But that was oil Has the spouse he got a little bit. Yeah. Is, is a huge gaping hole. Yeah. And the whole thing came. With about oil pulling. Our I. Was big I was thinking vegetables are the sad thing that to throw it all away because there was too much stuff that we are is the great unraveling. you know, I was watching a lot of my friend's kids and she was like, How old are you? And I told her, it's just like you're not married. Oh. Oh, my God. That what this is, like, Are you asexual? I will not look back on it for me. Huh? Maybe I'm going in that direction. Yeah. Yeah. It changes, though. My sluggishness is definitely by perspective and everything has changed on it that I also am like, Am I a lot? I'm like, Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, there's a time where I was like, I honestly, I was Wow. But, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Different. Well, yeah and I think you get. Yeah, yeah you get comfortable in sometimes I'll ask Garrett if he, wants a blowjob and he goes from the like what. Anything. And he goes because I talk during it but I don't remember, I don't think I'm talking during it, I have no concentration whatsoever. But I guess my rookie. Year so. Yeah. Like what was I doing. Oh that's right. You had I have your dick in my mouth. We got to get you one track. Yeah, I know. I can't concentrate no matter what. Yeah, but I think at that time I think that was just the way. I think that was because I was like, drunk or higher. Thinking of something. Yeah. I don't know. Hey, do you want one? Because I can try. Right? I've been thinking about. Come on, it's two minute, It's 2 minutes of both of our lives. Let's just go. Sometimes. Oh, you think you're being generous? Yeah. Yeah, I'm. Going to suck some dick, and then it takes forever. Yeah. Yeah. We call it. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's. Yeah, It's like, okay, now you're not concentrating. Think about something. Think about somebody who you want to suck your dick so we can get on with it. Yeah. Or it's like, you know, the. You mean you can't set a timer the wrong kind of pressure, but it's like you need to do something like order. Who hears. So funny. Or like, Wheel of Fortune is going to be on. Oh. Wow. All those puzzle. Yeah. Yeah. I think I could clean up on that. I really would audition. Are you? Yeah. Yeah, We. Got to get on. Here. I want to. Even if I What do you call it when you can't? When you get up to bat and you blow it, what do you call it? You strike out. Strike out. Yeah, I do that. Mulligan. No, that's a redo. Yeah. Even if I suck, I thought I would still lose with a smile on my face. I wanted to do, like, game shows. I do? Yeah. I saw that pressure. Luck is kind of back where they did the holiday version. Yeah, I saw when I was in Syracuse and I was like, Oh, there goes the the whammy. In the same way I'm nostalgic for like eighties prices, right? Oh, huge. And I think we talked about it. Yeah, the, the people but the women on press like have, like a fucking orgasm. Yeah, I know. I know what a lousy job. And they get like an armchair. They're like. I never seen it. I yeah, I haven't seen that either. So yeah. Controversy about it like oh. A guy. He. Got the rhythm. O. Of which is hard to detect. Wow. Was winning and it was inexplicable. Wow. Or something. Yeah. Wow. You watch it. Okay. I feel like I can get stressed out and have anxiety over anything, and so I don't think I can do well watching that kind of stuff. I am. Ah. You never do no good. You know what it is? I think I heard. It's the worst. It's a horrible game and it's clunky. There's big cards you have to turn over. But the questions are so beyond arbitrary. Uh, like. What percentages of housewives like a gray Diet Coke camp. Wow. Wow, wow. Don't even ask it. It's. It's sort of family feud. Yeah. Jeez, Hypothetical. They're not real. They're like, 10%. Wow. So they to be, like, 11%. And I don't know, it's it's. Oh, there's no rhyme or reason to it. Really? Hmm. Like numbers out of thin air. But it's that same era. There's something about, like. Those game shows. The pyramid game. Mm mm. Pyramid. Yeah. Bet she gets me like, wound up. Uh huh, Right. It's back. Uh huh. Oh, it is. Wow. I need a boyfriend. I was like, You don't understand. Yes, It's like once. Yeah. Your arms down. Ha ha ha. Right. You can't, like, gesture. Yeah. I don't know what's your game show, but because you went on. Oh, I thought it would be good at family for you and, uh, Junior Jeopardy! Junior Jeopardy! Though, with the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the first level of jeopardy and that second. Yeah. Celebrity Jeopardy just the other day. And that was. Hard. Yeah. So I sometimes on the Alex Trebek Jeopardy, I wouldn't even understand the question. I think there are so difficult like in the Paleolithic era what I what I what is the category. I don't even get it. I don't even know what the fuck this is. Kimberly, it was so good to see you. And time with you. Thank you. And, Kimberly, how can people watch your special and see how can they keep in touch with you, their Instagram or I'm on Instagram a lot, my handle is, uh, can really clarify. Yeah, yeah. It's really part comedy. Oh great. Yeah, I post shows on there and then my specials on Netflix. Uh, it's season two of Tiffany Haddish Presents. They ready? I think I'm episode four. Oh, great. Yeah, but check me out. There's some projects coming out soon, so. Right. That was thrilling to see you as a part of They ready was equally is like, Oh my gosh. Were you pinching yourself? Yes, I was. You know, I had an anxiety attack, though, the night before it dropped. It was like, what happened? I was nervous before actually doing it. And then I got I got over that. I was like, Oh, I'm glad that's over. Yeah. They're like, okay, it's coming out. I'm like, Oh God. Well, she nice. Tiffany. She's great. Oh, okay. You know what's funny is I've worked with her on something and she said she was like, I'm about to hook you up. I'm like, really? Uh, you know, people tell you things in Hollywood. You're just like, Okay, whatever. Mm hmm. Well, she actually came back and got me, and. Oh, that's. I love that. That's nice. Very generous. Uh huh, Well, and so are you, though. Yeah, I know. It's so fun to see you. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. You're so original and you are so singular. And you have your own vibe and voice and style, and it's like my favorite thing in comedy is. And people just have that, confidence. I remember, I think one of the first times I saw Kimberly was like, at the improv lab and you were saying you know, I love grocery shopping. And I was thinking about I was like, I do, too. I love all kinds of shot, but I was like, I never heard a comic ever just say that I love grocery time. And I was just like, Yeah, that's true. It's like kind of, you know, simple pleasure. And it was like, Yeah, I. Remember doing. That. Yeah. I was a freshman. Easy. Well, there used to be a freshman was like the name of a hip hop group from the. Yeah. Thank you, Kimberly. They do a