"Who's gonna beat this out of you?" with Francisco Ramos

Laura and Daniel sit down with actor and comedian, Francisco Ramos. We discuss growing up Venezuelan in D.C., going from finance to comedy, becoming a paid Comedy Store regular, improv, comedy cruise ship disasters, staying humble, The Unexpecteds, equal pay for comics and his upcoming special, "Venezuelamerican"

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Transcript

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Francisco. The full thing. I don't I don't like when people around me do entertaining. So I'm quite different. Yes. Francisco, that's great. It's a great name you got. Thanks, Frank. Sometimes I get Frank. Uh, there's nicknames for Francisco that like saying Rob or Bob, but it's Spanish. Just Francisco is like Pancho. Oh, those. I don't like. I don't. You see me like, I was like. Those are so cute. Oh, I know. And then I have friends who are also Francesc constantly coming back. Like, for me, I don't know if it gives me that sense of, like, I don't know, some cowboy or some. Some. Yeah, yeah. You know, I don't know, Yeah. Yeah. Just Dan or Danny. It's like. I don't coach and I don't fucking. You're one of those like, Dan Webb. What are we going to get you in today? Dan Webb is, But I love your last name, too, though. I like the name Daniel and Webb. Yeah, Yeah. I work too hard, kind of. But right. Now, we're already looking for a. Red velvet. How could I help you, Dan. we really wanted to see us. Sorry. Okay. Hey. What we thought would happen. Yay! Aw. Dan Webb and Laura Kightlinger. Who we're so excited to have our guest here today. he's And you can see some of the Comedy Store all the time. Oh, great. Coming out soon. We'll look for it on social media. But we have with us Francisco Ramos. Yeah. Francis Ramos. Okay. But what I was thinking of was not the Westside but when I saw you at Lucy Fast. That's right. Oh, okay. Jamestown, correct. Hmm. Where Laura's from, If you can imagine, that shithole is where I am. Oh, so everybody was trying to say you're Desi Arnaz. Is that it? I was going to say. I get that all the time and I love it. I mean, yeah, he's very handsome. Yeah, so. Handsome and so. Yeah. And also all the stuff that he did and made them together and literally created mostly. Did they make you say Lucy? Yes, go ahead. Let's go. No, he has a book called A Book. Oh, we're going to make it funny. Yeah, it's called. Well, he and his ex-wife ever held up a pencil? It was. What is this, a pencil? It goes exactly. Oh, you should read his book because it's fucking fascinating. His early life in Cuba is nuts, But there's weird details. Like there was an earthquake and it's swallowed a bus full of people. Whoa. That shit happens. Yes. I remember a conversation we had about we were it was the best thing we did the later show. That's right. And in their little, uh, was. Like, It looks like the club. Yeah, it was like the club. Like the club. Tropicana. Yes, the Tropicana Club. And it was really hot and it was late and it was the Orient. Everybody was just like, thick with humidity and not really that interactive as an audience. Right. And Francisco was the only one who did. Well, I remember you coming backstage was like, How did you make him laugh? We're talking about crowd work and you had a really way more precise way of looking at audiences and judging who wants to talk. MM Versus and I remember you saying, if you're, if you're picking on someone, you're talking to someone who's clearly shy, then you are perceived as like a bully. Yeah. Mm hmm. I never heard that. It just seems I don't know if people are that thoughtful about their crowd work. Yeah. I mean, I think to me, with. Yeah, with crowd work, I feel like it has to be a together. Yeah. If you're forcing especially, you know, when as a comic you're on stage, you know, you have to make your eye out to see even that the physicality. Mm. Like the alpha, you know. So it's kind of like you want to, you already so if you're making it seem like you're, you know, kind of annoying this person or being like picking. On, yeah, he just. Doesn't come across. I feel that out and all the time and I just even just the physical. Yeah. They're very like pants or whatever, you know, I kind of like do something minimal quick and move on. But yeah, really, they're comfortable. The best of best kind of like person, right? Somebody that's very comfortable. They're just joking with you. And then there, there and then it's kind of like when you're with your friends and you're kind of making fun with your friends about it, you know? It's all fine. We're friends. Yeah. And you can tell, I think, too, in there are people who really want to engage because sometimes, I've noticed, like I think I'm being heckled and somebody just like, talking to me like. Like, like they're drunk. We're both drunk and we're just like, the only difference is I'm on stage. And so then you can engage with them. Yeah. Or help me with that because it was like I am so egotistic that when someone talks, I'm like, You're interrupting. And it's not that at all. Some people just have a way more interactive or participatory perspective. And those are sometimes I feel like those are the hoarders audience members, sometimes because the ones that are very support or like they're able to the show kind of like. So that kind of answering your best. Yeah. Like, yeah, thanks for that. But yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's those are the hard because they're like, you don't want to be like hey can you have I'm not that hard or like, Yeah. Yeah, were you part of like the Austin scene to friends Cisco or have you How? Because I was just I don't know. I was just going to. I grew up in I was born in Venezuela. Oh, wow. And then me and my family moved to DC, Maryland. Okay. When I was 12. So I grew up there. Mm hmm. Maryland in October spring. Yeah, Actually, I went to school in. We can. See I can sniff that out. By. I grew up in Bethesda in Rockville, MD. Oh, were. You there during the sniper? Yes, I remember. When I. Was I remember like putting because the whole thing was I remember putting gas and I was just. Sarah, one time is running out and I was just like going like, this. Like, give the guy go to, like. A moving target. Yeah. Oh, man, you're going to have to. Do you remember the D.C. sniper? I Yeah, I know. I definitely remember hearing about it. Yes. Oh. Oh, wasn't his. I wasn't at that. It was a weird, I think, like gay relationship where the kids the kid was like 14. Oh, so they were like father. I don't think I they passed that story off. They did, but I don't think they were actually related. And there might have been I don't know the dynamics and but it was a 14 year old. Yeah, it was a young guy. And some I can't recall the adult was Yeah. They were sniping people in gas station. Yeah. Oh like the Home Depot parking lot. People were loading their cars. Yeah. Drilled a hole. The sniper. Back in the. Van. Correct. They had like a sedan, like a truck gun hole where they would party and so you couldn't see it. But I didn't know that. We don't talk about that. No, I don't remember. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely remember that one. Yeah. It was like, yeah. I mean, it was literally there. Yeah. And it turns out the sniper was Francisco's wife. Either you're married and you're. Like, you know. The rest of your life is like that. Marriage is like a gun to your head. No. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yes. I just got married five months. I mean, in August. Oh, jeez. Congratulations. So you met your wife out here? Yes. Okay. And she's from Asheville, North Carolina. Oh, okay. And we met in acting class. Okay. So where did you start? Did you start as a stand up? So I start as a stand up when I moved here because I didn't I majored in finance business. I went to the University of Maryland, and after I graduated. Yeah. I my last semester is when I really that was the first hand of like. Oh, yeah, you know, and. This is where everything started online. This is most of it is for the rest of my life. Yeah. I hate this kind of thing. Yeah, I started working right away and I still had that same kind of like, uh. Yeah. And you're your twenties then? I'm in my twenties because, like, 22, 23 when I. Yeah, 22 when. I would have fucked up a professional job like that. Oh, yeah. I would not know where to find that, But. But, but that was like, I mean, that's how I grew up, you know, like my whole trajectory was to do that. Oh, okay. Like, that was like the norm. right? Yeah. And that's one of the things that I also that's why I decided to start doing comedy, because I started going and I, I know how the rest of my life is going to be. Yeah. Like, I knew it was like, Yeah, okay. And then, then I do. They get the masters, you know, and you get married in the I guess they have divorce. I mean. Blow your brains out. Yes, I know. I learned that. I was like, if I'm like, for my forties, I'm doing this, I might kill myself. Yeah. Francisco, were your parents very business oriented? Were they like, okay, get a good job? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a she she was a pharmacist. And that's the reason that we moved here, because she worked in marketing and also shows a pharmacist. That's why she got her job at Pan American Health Organization. Oh, great. See, I. My dad was an industrial chemist. I see on business like medical distribution now. So it was very. Yeah. Mm hmm. And you make now that I go down. Yes. Now. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. I mean, does that make sense to like that, going back to how they grew up? Like their goal was to like their parents getting most of them. They didn't go to college. Yeah. Yeah. So everything was to make, you know, have, you know, graduating from the university and then have a job then. Yeah, you know, for me, you know, and I think our generation would have gone like, now I want to do what I like them. And that's one of the reasons too, because my thing was like when I started, when I then decided to move to L.A., the number one reason a lot of my friends are things that a lot of my friends said when they were like, Oh, I can leave. You're the boss to do that. Like, And it was a very kind of sad moment for too. I mean, because when I every time I would hear that from them, I'd be like, You can do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But everybody was like, it was funny how they not really, because to me, my thing was like, luckily I don't have to take care of my parents and I don't have kids to take care of. I like I have the freedom to go. Yeah, I. Can do. And if I can, I can always come back. Mm hmm. Destroying all these other lives and this of. Yeah, right. Yeah. So that's so but yeah, but yeah, all my friends, they, you know they all kind of were in that bubble, you know, in this society bubble that a lot of them are afraid to. Yeah. Mm hmm. I noticed that sort of like, in, like Facebook or Instagram world where you like, just message with people and be like, you're living it or it looks like you're like, you know. Yeah, yeah. From outside or yeah, like in L.A., you're like, Oh my God, I'm not. Yeah, yeah. From the outside you see that? And I feel the same way. I'm like, Oh, that makes me think that they're not living their dream. Yeah, No. And you see, and I feel like I, even when I first moved to L.A. and then I got I wasn't like, delusional where I was like, I get better. Oh, my God. Become that. Yeah. Yeah. It's mystery. You have to, like. Start that. But it was I mean, it was in terms of like, was like, well, I'm going to get a job in Miami and I want a major in so I can, you know, have money come in and get does doesn't work. I have this thing, you know, where I was delusional in terms of like I just spent all my savings and my mind is going to be I'm going to da at first six months. Hmm. Yeah, I missed that crucial first step. Yeah, I guess that's. Fine at. First. And that was I mean, to me, that was an essential, I think. I think people that want to do comedy or acting or anything like that, I tell people like, have a job that pays you whatever you do. Yeah. Because until it gets to the point that you can't do it literally anymore because this other your craft now demands your full time. Right? Right. Yeah. Pretend you got the right thing. Going to pay for everything. Right? Right. Yeah. So you started in your twenties, you came right out here. You're like, I'm done. Yeah, Like, I think I worked in, like, a year and a half or two years, and I'm D.C. and then I'm off. So I got here when I was like 24, You know, when I. I started well, I moved I moved to New. York in my thirties, that is. Oh. I moved to New York in my twenties. And then I started High Desert in February and. I Yeah, yeah. Let me get my teeth off. You're young too. When you start, I was like, I was in my twenties attempt in New York I think I like, ruined like every computer program and everything that I ever did. I would, I actually, I, well, I did. I did a short called Dependable People and it was like basically me temping like I look for things to steal all day long and then I would unplug the phone so I don't even have to answer the phone. See, I used to have we talked about. That, uh. Health food store? I was a stalker. Oh, I'm going to tell you about that where I like because I was just thinking. It's like your. Stock stock boy. Yeah, like, it's not like you're like binoculars through the window. Your job you had dark hair. Oh, I just thought. Of person stock boy Stock person. Yeah. Yeah. The best way to, like, because I didn't want to work. I don't like the job. So you would take your cart with all your goods? They supposed to put on the shelves, right? And you park it in the middle of the aisle and then you kind of make it look like you'd start it. And then I would go into the employee bathroom and I would turn the faucet on and lock the door and sleep hum. Oh, wow. I. think people would come out and go, Where have you been? Like, I'm on I'll buy my cards right here. And it's so great. I did this. I mean, that job that I got and I work in Center City in this twin lake, and I was like, I work there. And I it's one of the things when you know what, like sometimes life, you know, like, helps you that job was a perfect job for me to start doing comedy because it was so easy. Like a monkey could like a little monkey could do it because like I would say, my whole job was to pretend that I was right. I could do the job in an hour. Yeah. I was to pretend that I was like. So I would go take naps in my car. I would go around, you know, like every, like cubicle and people, I'm just like, hey. So I had like, wow. And it was so it was very like, I don't remember then getting to the end of the year, kind of like a bonus bonus, and I'd be like, great work. I was like, I was like, How is this? Wait a second. So for instance, because that was at the CAA at the talent agency. Well, that was where I worked at. Oh, an investment firm. But oh. Right next. To, you know, this building. Right where. Oh it got it, got it, got it. Yeah. We talk about fashion or clothes, clothing. When you work in finance and you're in your early twenties, like, are you due to dress up or. Do you have to have a suit. On? Yeah. No, that company, you know, you didn't have to wear suits. It was more like just business casual, like pants and like a shirt. You know, nothing. Like, you don't have to wear, like, a tie. Mm. I always wondered about that. Like, do you have to dress, like, in an office job? Do you really like trying to show up, like, with high fashion, or is that too destabilizing for the work? Well, Real estate people, right? You can't show up like this. You have to show. No to show up in. But I think it's like you could see the people wearing the same uniform to that. But I feel like if you show up in, like, really like nice full suit, this stuff like that, then it feels like, Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. You know, I. Think that's going well. In temping. I mean, I feel like, you know, I had to kind of get dressed up, but I'd still be going out doing stand up. I was temping and so whatever I yeah, no, I mean, I know if I was going to do stand up and doing stand up and I, you know, and then, sometimes be so tired that I would just wear at night what I was going to wear the next day, which is kind of gross, but I like, I'd wear like kind of a cute skirt or whatever, and then just wake up and. And then go, Right. Yeah, yeah. I hundred Well, on a similar nonprofessional. No, but my mom wouldn't let me wake and watch cartoons and because I think she didn't want to wake up early. Right. Your room has to be clean, your bathroom and all these things before I could watch TV. So I started putting clothes on and sleeping on top of my bed so I could just like as soon as I woke up, I could just go watch Thundercats like I wake up and do that. Since I make the OR I guess it had to be brewing. But when you're in your early twenties and you hate finance, then you're like, I'm going to do this. Was it always standup? So I started, like, when I have, like, my little quarter, like, cracks and then started going, I started, I went to bars and all of that type of self-help books to find out what I wanted to do because I was like, I know this is like, I don't want to do this, but I didn't know what I wanted. Mm. Mm hmm. And I remember reading a self-help book and then also writing The Alchemist, which is a great book, Minimal. Paulo Coelho and those kind of books helped me to kind of be like, find out like, I mean, with The Alchemist, it tells you, look at the science that life gives you to like basically people that our life tells you like what you are good at. And I remember going back, I'm like, Yeah, people always tell me that I'm funny. Mm hmm. Yeah. And I also used to love watching comedy. And at that point, I love to watch watching Whose Line is it anyway? Oh, yeah. And, you know, so I took an improv class that this improv, I didn't tell anybody. You know, I remember going Sunday one afternoon. I started standup in utter secrecy. Yeah. Uh huh, yeah. Tell me about it. Because I was like, Let me see. And then I remember going that first time. That's when I was like Oh, I want to do this again. Uh huh. Yeah, I didn't because I did a lot of stuff. And as I was like, Yeah, I got bored and then also felt that I was better than the norm. Hmm. And I never had that either. Ha ha. Yeah, I used to play sports, and I was always like I was in good or bad when I was. I, like, above. All right. Yeah, yeah. When you could tell, I'm like, you know, you're in the Matrix and everything's. It's a little slower and quicker. And. And then when I did, when we did our first show, I was on stage, you know, for friends and family. I felt very comfortable on stage. Oh yeah. Then I would feel with talking to people offstage. Yeah. And those three things, I was like, All right, there's something here. And then I just can't. If I took like a year of classes and stuff like that, and then that's when I decided to move to L.A. and wants to pursue more improv. Yeah. And then I started doing improv at the Groundlings, and then then with that standup and then slowly went into more standup. Did you talk about that evolution really fast? Because there's a dividing line sometimes between like improv sketch and standup, even though I think they're hand-in-hand with each other. Yeah, but that's especially in L.A., Um, was that you were like, I like working alone. I love creating my own. No, I love that. That is I think I actually love working with people and being part of a team. But like the thing I was w I didn't find that group of people. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize I was coming in with like very, like Bambi of Sure. Yeah. Everybody. Yeah. You know, And then slowly you start. Gagliano Everybody's here for their own. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, Oh, this is not. So that's why I started doing standup, because I had I was if I would have found two other people that were on the same boat as me in terms of like, let's just write sketches and put them up. I you know, I mean. I think that was the big myth to SNL is that it's like, oh, group, you know, like working together and so backstabbing shit, I mean, yeah, through the chat. And I got my taste when I did the CBS version. Oh, yeah. I did. I think it was the first one I did or one of the first one. Which now it's. A whole now it's a whole show. And before I was like 20 people I like, Yeah, here's some Twinkies. Correct? And I was like family, like, like. A full circle. But I remember going I because I got in last and then the same thing I had this whole thing of like, all right, we're part of we're all together, so we're all going to work together. And then I start is very clicky for, you know, their sketches and like that was a very like slap in the personality of like, Yeah, oh, yeah, nobody's here for everyone is just, just looking out for themselves. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I was in sketch troupe in college, and that was like the best time of my life. I think when you're young and you can be, with other friends and working, I think that's about it. Until it gets really professional. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ambitions and reputation. It's the whole. Yeah, it's. I mean, there's nothing to lose. It's fun. It you, it ruins your vibration. Exactly. Yeah. We both like it. Yeah. And audiences and people can pick up on that mostly. I best second I best Second City though. Wasn't like that Second City TV. I get the feeling they were. I don't know, because they're so cool. I mean, it seems like they're still most of those that the original casts of Second City and all that it seems like they were friends. I mean I don't know. You know how long okay. So you were on SNL for one season. Mm. How long into it were you like or. Yeah, because I saw the first time they got to you or when did you say you realized like, Oh, this is nice. Yeah. Everybody sent for themselves. Are you coming? Doe eyed and bad? Yeah. Well, my big mouth, I started like the first thing was Norm MacDonald I met on Roseanne and we're both writing in there, and he asked me what I thought of the sketches and what I thought of the thing. And I said, Mine's not ready. And I guess there seems to be like a real anal probe thing here like that I don't get or whatever. Like, I, you know, I was just being really candid because I kind of thought it was sort of a friend or I'd met him at Roseanne or whatever, and then he told everybody what I said. So then I started off on really bad, obviously a really bad note. Yeah, but also but even if that hadn't happened, you know, the cast had been there ten years by the time I was the same cast of ten years. Yeah. And Janine Gravel and I and Chris Elliott, like we were kind of coming in on a group that was already kind of done. Yeah. And also kind of being, like, dragged through the mud to, like, kind of get. Smaller cast and now there's like a 30 people. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, well, I remember one of the things I remember is Al Franken was giving a speech like, we've got to stand together because, you know, we're getting tearing apart on page six of the post and this and that and then like the very next day, there was an article and it was him saying, why the show is like he was interviewed saying, well, there are too many stand ups, Nobody's done any acting. I'm like, who in like viewership is like, I need to read page six. Okay, Well, I don't know. And energies, whatever. The New York Times, too, was terrible. But I do like because I coming from Texas, I started standup in Austin. And so the inevitable question is, would you go to New York or L.A.? And my heart was really in New York, but. I now I live in New York. To what change? one of the thoughts was like, well, I was like, more f with more expensive Mr. Live in New York. But, but mostly it was mostly I was like I knew I could just drive. Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. Every weekend or whatever. And I didn't want to have that because I wanted to force myself to, like, be somewhere where I'm like, I guess you're here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really, I and I think it was good that I did that because I don't know, maybe I would have gone and then it wasn't going well. And I just go back and then I just don't do it. And it's so crazy expensive there now. Yeah. Like, you know, you can stay in L.A., You can always find ways to pay rent. Yeah. To have to not be crazy. Especially still live in the city. I just, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I can be poor in L.A. and still be somewhat happy because there's, like, a blue sky and. You can walk if you really need to. Yeah. In New York. Yeah. I'm curious things that you were watching. Like, whose line is it anyway? But just generally speaking, what were you watching comedically? Yeah. While Seinfeld, I was like, Why are you like, I'm a huge fan of silent films. I used to watch it all the time with my family and then it's funny because I didn't watch that much standup until I started getting into them. But I remember the ones that I did watch just right before was, you know, Dave Chappelle and Seinfeld and the ones that kind of like coalesces. But it wasn't. I was more in the fan of like, sketches and comedy and like, you know, like comedy shows and stuff like that. And that's why I wanted to do improv in the beginning, you know? But then, you know, standup was just a thing of like, All right, let me do it. And then I could see that, okay, people are kind of catching up. And then, yeah, and then the main thing was like, it's just me controlling. And it's not crazy expensive either, because I classify them a lot, right? Yeah. Yeah, I remember because I remember seeing Richard Pryor's special and just thinking how like that was, I mean, way after he had done it too, probably it was like I think it was live on Sunset Strip and it was so damn good. Yeah, it's well, Austin, there was a minute where they showed it on the big screen. Oh, when I saw that and that was when I'd already seen Margaret shows. I'm the one that I want. Oh. That's great. In a little theater, she wasn't even there. And at the end, people stood up and clapped. Wow. I didn't know. Standup could be that. Uh huh, Yeah. Yeah. It was a full hour or 90 minute. Yeah. Yeah. And I was in bands and like, just as a basis. I was like, I have my amp and my bass. Why am I helping the drummer with his cymbals and his buddy? Ha ha ha. Ha. It's very much like I. We need to streamline that. Yeah. So I loved stand up because, like, I so I had to show up with a piece of fucking egg for. Ha ha ha. Ha outside that mentality. Because I, like I said, I, I like working as a team, stuff like that. But then I remember the sport that I, uh, kind of like settle on a bit more or sports that are more individual, like tennis, like I'm. From. I don't play bad men, but I haven't played. But I play. I mean, I play. I'm so sick of this pickleball fucking fanatic fanaticism going on when Batman is the game. Badminton. Where are you from? The fifties. What? It's so because you get to hit it. Ha. Yeah. Yeah. Tennis. You have to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Finance. Not bad. No. I want a game where I can work out my rage on it and hold it for, like. Or did you play sports? Yeah, I've played. I mean, my dad was a very good sports fan, so, like, that's kind of like I got into that because of that. So I played pretty much, you know, in baseball and soccer and, and, um, basketball and then that track in high. School. And it, uh, but tennis is the one that I was like the one that I started the ladies and the ones that I'm. Oh, yeah. Are you the only kid. In your field? An older sister, two and a half years old. You have an older sister? I have an older sister. They fuck you up? Yeah, Yeah, like that. I mean, I love my sister, but she's very. Did you get to sleep in the house when you were growing up? Garret had an older sister to text, and he is fucking. He said. He said when his sister moved out, he still didn't get to pick the room, even though he was still there. I remember thinking when my sister went to college, it's like now I. And that never happened. Just the person in charge is gone with no satellite. At that point. In the two. Year thing I find is the one that really incubates that like little brother. Forever. I had to wait for like exact. And I feel also for me is even more of that when we moved to the US because then it's not like we're like we didn't mean talk each other. And then when we moved here, since we're now, we're like in the same game. Yeah. I, you know, I think otherwise, you know, I. Like my, my sister started going out to like parties and like nightclubs. They were like, well, if you want to go, are you going to take him? Oh, really? Yes. I remember going and he seemed to like when I was like 15 or 16 years old to like this nightclub. Well, that's cool. Yeah, it was cool. So it was like we develop so. You you get to drink if you don't tell your parents. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't you dare tell on me. I'm your sister and you're covering for your. Oh, yeah, it's My friend Michelle, she's this Ecuadorian goddess. She's stunning. And when we were 15 and had learner's permit, we would drive to Dallas to go to this gay bar because she wanted to dance because she could kind of had a man would buy her a gay man. Love the way she expands. It's just by her lemon drops left and right. I was like, I was 12 so guys would buy me shots, right? But we would. Go all the time and she worked it. But the best part was our parents thought we were literally just going to dance. The emotional satisfaction of moving our bodies. It was like, No, we're going to manipulate adults. But yeah, so my parents knew I was going to like a club at 1516 and didn't think there was anything wrong with that. Well, they meet her. Do they know that she was. Oh, they'd have. They thought she was your girlfriend. Michelle was the best cover because she was the one breaking all the rules, but she was responsible and had her shit together. So, uh. They trusted what was happening. What was their biggest mistake? Yeah, I fell on time off when we went to the psych rave thing and DC and I, uh. only drank when I was growing up. I never did like drugs. And, uh. remember when I was at this rate and this guy came up to me is like, Hey, you like to party? Like the party? And I was like, I mean, yeah, on the weekends. Ha ha ha. Yeah. Yeah. And he was like, Oh, I was like, Then I realize that this guy come up to me like, Yeah, I the world. This isn't a life interview. It's like People magazine development is. He asked me if I like the part. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. I love watching football. The Cavs. Yeah. I ran into you guys that loosely because it was you and Jayce and like a lobby and you were about to go to the museum. But yeah we went to the National. Did you like it. We took it to early. It's it's cool I like that. I mean it's I mean I think it's really cool to finally have, you know, something that, you know, that gives credit to, you know, standup comedy. And usually standup seems like one of the hardest things that we don't give that much credit to. So it was cool. Yeah. Is your wife also a comic or actor. Or actress and, uh, yeah, I don't know if I could go out with a comic. Another. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's annoying. I know I could. Yeah. Kidding. It's just too. I mean, I like the fact that, you know, she's an actress, so. I mean, we can also obviously work on, you know, on staff or helps with auditions, but also I think she understands the business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. just being with comedy where, like, when I go in the closet and we're hanging out. Yeah, I want. To hang out and. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you don't need. The domestic issues. Just be like you didn't empty the mailbox. Yeah, Yeah, I'm. I have. A lot to go. Yeah, Yeah, yeah. No, it's my family will call at fucking 759 on a Saturday and I'm like, y'all know. I have one.

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00. Yeah, but. I think I'll talk some shit. Comedy couples start to sound. Like, Oh, yeah. Like. And it's not that they're saying the same thing, but they're inflection. Oh, my God. And I'm like, That is the most nauseating thing. Yes. It's just even when you go open for somebody a lot to get some of the men, I mean, one of the first at 11/41 one that I've been shown the road with was Sebastian. I mean, he's alcohol, you know. But that was when he was just first starting. I was 18. Yeah. Not, not I was at that D.C. improv just because I was a ham from D.C., I can, you know. Yeah. Stay out there. and he was with the one that I saw when I was work because I worked at the Comedy Store. Oh yeah. And then I was there at night, one of the first night, and I was like, Oh, I kind of that's kind of like that career that I went to. Mm hmm. and, you know, I opened a couple of times for him, and I but I'm glad that I kind of stopped early, you know, in a way, it stop because I was getting the. Rhythm of, Oh, yeah. And even after that, people tell me, Oh, you remind me. Are you kidding? Yeah, because I got, you know, some of the physical things that I do on stage. Mm. Oh, Francisco, I want to. This is what we were talking about before. I wanted to ask you about the. You did a cruise in your. How. How the hell was that? Oh, I was, I was doing shows at the Comedy Magic Club in there mostly some guy. And, you know, after the show said, Hey, I do I guess he was a director of the Cruisers or something. And he was like, Hey, you wanna do some for it was for the Alaska Cruises and the Princess. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And they gave me like three weeks, one like each week. And I was like, Yeah, sure. I mean, it was good money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. you know, I my own my impression was like, I'm going to go do it. I mean, no, but I'm going to be able to ride and watch Netflix. I was thinking like. It's a work true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And then, and then you get there and you're like, obviously the internet doesn't become on reality. Oh, yes. And then there was no cable, no nothing. I watch literally because that Princess cruise apparently is where the the Love Boat started. Yeah. Oh yes. Every season with Gavin MacLeod. Amazing. Have you? Okay, so one of my favorite things on the cruise ship is the TV. There's like, maybe 19 channels. Ten of them are, like, for free and. Oh, shit. So wait a second. You got. You both did the same Princess cruise type thing. Uh, I can't remember. The the company I work for was Atlantis and another one. But they rent like an Alaskan cruise. Hmm. Whatever. But The jewelry channel. Did you notice that? Yes. Yeah, I'm like. Oh, my. Yeah. There is a oh hell. Channel where they're selling Nothing is a real jam. It's these fucking fake stones that they put Zeit or something. Yeah. Everything's a knife. Yeah. Uh huh. But anyway, I thought. That the restaurant channel had they promote that I had a right. You got nowhere else to go. No, I. Mean, they would show. You this like in, like neon purple purple stone and try and pass it off like a real jam. And I'd be like, This is only $5,000. Oh, no. I was obsessed with the TV on that show. But you performance wise. So performance wise. So that's another thing too. I did in the show. They always want you to clean on this. And this room was the average rate for that or, you know, was basically eight people in there, 6570 like all there and. Cleaning books. And things. And they had to be clean. I had to be clean. I remember I did one show in there and they had they they show that. I mean, I think I only did one or yeah, I think in that that first week I was in a big theater. Mm hmm. Like 500 or 700. But it was like, 200 people spread out, right? Oh, man. Yeah. Kids you know, live there. I'm like, Oh, no, I'm 40 minutes. And they're like, you know, you're doing whatever. I, you know, you know, that's when you go into, like, uh. Survival mode. Yeah, Yeah. I'm doing, you know, Oh, my God. You know? And then I remember calling my manager at that point, I was I call him and I was like, hey, I was like, I he'd even done it there. You have a, like, a nervous breakdown. Yeah. Oh, no. Like, cause I was like, I get I is this sucks. Yeah, I just. Like this whole the fact that I didn't like his. The fact that you have to stay there. Yeah. Do you get claustrophobic. I was in is it was claustrophobic with the people. Yeah. Yeah. I like, I don't care about doing. I mean, I do corporate or colleges. You do them and then you're out. Yeah. Yeah. You have. To then run into. Those people again. Oh, yeah. Well, if. You. Were you told me you were saying talking about this young woman in the audience who came up to you after. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because other than you're only two people, and then you're in the you're in the buffet where they eat, you know, some people come hang the chow and stuff like that. I remember this, girl, maybe she was like 15 or something. She was like, Hey, great job in the show. I was like, Oh, okay. I was like, you know, I mean, Instagram. And she's like I only follow celebrities like, oh, I just I just at that point I was like, What am I doing? You know? It's like, what is going on? Yeah, like it's a bomb. Like, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's a bomb because now you have to live. And then luckily that one, I think that was the only show. And then, but then other and other course you have to do more. I mean people come to see you again. Oh no. It's the same people that you did the show last night and, and you might have to have like two types of sex, but this there's a whole week. So before I give Carmen, I'm. Like, Oh, no. I here. I didn't I read or write for an hour of it. Oh. That's why I feel like especially with comedies is I get like, if you're a magician or you're a magician or something or yeah, that you do that. But then Yeah, but you don't need the audience. Exactly. You should they aren't. Exactly you don't need them. So you could be part of the jewelry channel, really. I think, you know, I am because those people get paid. Yeah, we were in. I was on a cruises last fucking year, right? the only place that really got off that is beautiful was in Cartagena. Right on. And that's where my sister. Yeah. Oh really. Yeah. That little cities. Really. And you go inside the wall. Yeah. Is your sister out here too? she used to live here in Laurel Canyon, but now she lives in Madrid. Oh, okay. They moved to Madrid. Oh, great. Sister lives in, in Majorca. Oh, nice. Yeah. I want to live in either of those places. Well. That's where I got married. I got married in Spain, but in Dania, which is close to, like, two and a half hour ferry ride to Ibiza, so. Oh, beautiful. How how does, like, Venezuelan Spanish translate to Spanish? It's like saying like somebody from, you know, New York or, you know, or Chicago and then in England, right. So it's it's. Different. Yeah. Oh, really, pal? Yeah, same language. But the accents and words are different. What's Venezuela. How do you say frog right now. Chapel. Okay. There's what I think is Puerto Rican. There's like, one other word. Mm hmm. Well, they. Oh, yeah, every country has. That's different. Yeah. Like, for, like, straw. For example, like every country in South America has a different pope. Okay, Yeah. And we say people. Oh, excuse me. And there's, like, 20 more. Yeah. Mm hmm. Of, like, sort of that. They are, you know, So. So stuff like that, I think is the same or like, same somebody from Australia, New Zealand. I mean, speaking English, we're all different. What. Oh do you do comedy. I done, I've done and done shows in Spanish. I don't do I want to get more into doing more because I, I went uh, I now I'm getting more of like um, people following that, that are, you know, Spanish speakers, you know, especially from Venezuela. The only thing is I don't have here in L.A. there's that many places to do them. So I need to practice. Yeah. I could if I'm going to do a show in a row for like an hour, you know, I need to have a good practice. Yeah. You know, so I'm slowly when I get to the that hopefully this year do more. I would love to do that to just doing, you know, do a set in in different length. I mean well I went to I was an a PhD student and so I went to I was in bigger Viaggio. Yeah. Near Madrid I guess. And I had my Spanish father, mother, sister and little brother sister were all, I'm going to say, under five feet tall. So everywhere we went and I was like five, seven by that point, everywhere we went, the dad announcing we all time we ought to meet up and we why? But you know, a saint, very tall, very beautiful, whatever. But was absolutely not the case. But I just was like I was walking in like. Like they're holding a balloon, like, everywhere, every hotel, every restaurant, or because he was of. Yeah, yeah. He was, he was a big he was a big he was a well, he was a very successful businessman. And so it was I don't know, maybe he was embarrassed like, look what I got. But I, they, my little Spanish sister made sure I talked, you know, spoke in Spanish like a little shit because I wasn't speaking that well. And and so I had to order for the family and I order I remember I ordered a pizza and ah, some other kind of I ordered like, like something like a pizza but not paid. Yeah, it was a pizza and I ordered. Opinions on which was farmers right. Camping. Younis Champion yogis Yeah I mean well from me that's like mushrooms. That's what I meant to say. But then she said that I said farmers on my this there's camping known as what's farmers. Campesinos farmer. That's what I think I heard it on the campus and then it was like. Yo. You dumb American. Oh shit. Well, anyway, tapping on as that, touring. I mean, yes and no. I mean, I definitely, I like especially now that when you get a little more people to know you, you know, mean, you know that shows where people are and that much you know or where you go to like nice cities or places that you you can visit good stuff like in New York or people. Yes. That I like. I mean I but I, I'm definitely not a fool like I need to be on the road. Oh, yeah. I remember when I took a class in D.C. in Brooklyn, it would tell you about the business of stand up. I forgot the time, but it was like I remember the main thing that I was like, Either you can be a city comic or a real comic. And this before I start out like, yeah, when I get say. Yeah, yeah. Because I go, so like, you know, I came and I like, right? Mm hmm. I'm not just, you know, one I do full time. Just be on the road 302. You know, obviously I do. You doing because you need the money and stuff like that. But it's definitely I would love to be on the phone where you can have your, you know. Your you you're just on. Yeah, I like that stuff. Yeah. Do you did the strike affect you very much. I mean, uh. You do more than just comedy. Yeah. I mean, in terms of. Yeah, definitely auditioning, you know, even if it wasn't like I was like, working on, uh, on a show or anything like that. But I definitely, you know, it stop with the whole, you know, audition. I mean. Yeah, I would say my name is like, yeah, now. That your execution is good. Yeah, yeah. Like, I find auditioning, especially now in the world of self. Yeah, I am so much more comfortable bombing in a room full. Of me to. IMing alone on my fucking phone. No. Where does this. Yeah, we have the zoom proof, and then you're like, Okay, thank you. And then you shut down and then you're just in your you live there. Oh, it's awful. Ha. And you start thinking about maybe you go get some coffee or like a little, you know, don't. And just to make yourself feel better. But now your, your home, like not. Even the crews work. It's like hard to disappear when you bottom because, I mean, and it's like. And I wasn't drinking on the cruise. It was like that as it were dangerous. And so it was like there's no way to burn it off because you go to the Navy, I'll go to the gym. And like, yeah, the anxiety. Yeah. Oh, that screams over there. I was inside when we were in Cartagena. I was I have a beautiful day in city, right. And some old man walk up to me because you're a bad comic. And I was so ready to be, like, lauded. Any of your act was cute. Oh, then he falls up with, if not a little offensive. I was like, both of those stuff. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And a little offensive. I want to be fully offensive, you old fucking fagot. Oh, please. Yeah. That people, like, say anything like, you know, I mean, say good job. Yeah. Those if you don't like it. Yeah. Why, why do they need to say anything? Yeah. Yeah. I'm only accepting compliments. Okay, that's. It. It's true, though. I feel like there's certain art forms. Like you never go up to a band and tell them it's. I mean, I could have been better, You know, the the drummer. I, and like whatever, or you go through all the fall. They're all trying to do your own show slash concert, right? And when I tell you I'm playing a piano on a piece that I worked on and someone comes up and starts thinking they. Know. I'm like, Oh, what planet would you have to go to a drummer and pick up something? Like, I got on top of what they're doing. It's just weird because everybody's had a piano test run, and in comedy everybody has told a joke or thinks they're funny. The fact that there's no is the is. We make it look so easy. So we've got another. Yeah, it's like it's like, is there anything with like sports or anything like our, our doctor you don't go to a doctor like hey you know that operation and you kind of. Say, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got. To know better. so stand up is something you do. No, but you're an actor. Yes. Like what? Where do you see yourself? What do you like? Like I. Yeah, I mean both. I mean definitely he I. Well, I just we shot a movie that's going to come out next this year. Actually, I shot at next year's. It's my first big role in a movie like Full Feature. Like for me, it's an independent movie with like there's like. Matt Walsh. Yeah. Oh, so he's great. Great. it was one of those movie or one of those experiences that I was like, it also helped me realize, okay, I no more than I thought. I you know, in terms of like when you're on sad, then you're alone and then just even, you know, because even being on set, for example, my old Tom, hey, he was shooting the scene is I think there's something funny I can do here. You know, like he's asking me. Oh, that's great. So it was a great experience. So, yeah, I mean, you know, I love I think of definitely comedy acting, but I also love drama acting like I love, like, being fierce, you know, like, I love you know, I just like the process of acting, but also of career into like, I think I'm definitely a big fan of just being part of a good project. Mm hmm. What it is, I think, is like, if it's producing or writing. I love directing too, because I don't have to be the main stage or whatever, and just, be a part of like. Yeah, you really are like teen oriented. You're like. Yeah, I like I mean, I always feel like it's great to, you know, when everybody, you know, we all help each other. I feel like, yeah, I can, be successful someday. But then that also is going to help you, you know, hopefully, you know, And that's that was always been my thing. Even when I did on my own, I remember I did a. Who's going to beat this out of, you know. I not that I can't get to, I, I, I, I don't know if I'll do you know. Is that already. Yeah. I guess the more prejudice you can control, the more I want to have that kind of a Mm hmm. Yeah. Experience. Of course. Matt Walsh. So did you ever watch Upright Citizens Brigade that. Yeah, sure. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, you should. I'm on Comedy Central. You're aware of that? I didn't know about it, but yeah, I. Yeah, I didn't like that It was so funny. And their sketches were really I thought one of my favorites was where they were. There was a pilot training course and the problem was all these planes are crashing and when they're crashing, the pilots are saying all these horrible things and they have to the families of the victims, they don't. When they clearly take that, they need to be more. I heard what they're saying. If their plane crashes, that would be Amy Poehler. And you're in the simulator and your plane crashes, then you're supposed to like verbally, like verbalize like everything's fine. This is just. But then Amy Poehler pulls out like a blood sacrifice and it turns out she's a Satan worshiper. And they have to keep, like, toning her down. But that's where Matt was came on my radar and that's fucking. But yeah, five years ago. Oh. You mean like I feel like Veep? Oh, yeah, I liked that. I watched a lot. I thought Veep was pretty great. Yeah. Yeah. They're scripts now. You should. I'm really bad at formatting, and so I need to read others too. Yeah, get a good one, but. Oh, that's a good idea. cursing. Yeah. So that curses is not painless, are they? Are okay. Yeah. Like poetic. Mm. Yeah, it is very like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a music too. Yeah, exactly. Oh no, no. I love. I mean, I love music. I mean, I think if I had a good voice, I would say, Mm hmm. Yeah. People would know. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah. You know, but I don't. Yeah. And then I used to, I think I, I do like more like that. Like drumming. You like. You know, I like percussion. Thank you. I know. are you a paid regular? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So. Which is huge. Yeah. Yeah, it's Sorry about that. Yeah. You were a door guy. I wasn't your guy. That's how I was. So when I first moved to L.A., I started a, you know, doing open nights, you know, And then one of the main open mikes was the Comedy Store. So I started going there and, you know, slowly they would start getting to know me that I was doing well, I remember and then I would hang out on the weekends. I remember because at that point the store wasn't popular. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, they just wanted people to be. Hmm. I was watching the show and there were, you know, a room, and then the booker was there. It came up to me was like, Hey, so what's your deal? And I was like, like, Oh, no, I was going to leave. I was like, No, no, no. It's like, I see the open mics all the time. You know, you're good. You want to work here? I was like, Oh, And at that point I had that investment. Yeah, full time. I'm like, Wow, how is I gonna. We'll figure it out. So that's basically when I and that was just, I guess maybe a year after I moved to L.A.. Was that Adam or. No. It was Tommy. Oh, I don't think I know who that is. Before Adam. That had to be a huge, like, vote of confidence. That's great. Yeah. To me. And I was like, is one of those, you know, like, I was like, you know, life telling you, like, okay, you're good at this or you belong here. Oh, great. Yeah, that one. I mean, that was definitely one thing because I would say, like, that's when I learned to be a comedian, because I was literally just working there watching people, you know, like Sebastian of the comics just go up and. Mm. How they open, how they call, you know, that took me almost two years of like into, you know, training, you know, and then that really and then I worked for two years until I got past. Yeah. And then I, you know, I stopped working there. But, but that was definitely that one. And one of the main things I was like, okay, this is I'm good. I'm kind of quick in a way. Yeah, that's amazing. Like very coveted and a huge goal from lots of comedians I didn't even know really about. I mean, I have that. I mean, I think it was more like, sure, I wasn't even like a goal for me. Yeah. Like, I just, you know, just happened, you know? Yeah. Was there a moment or are you like, Oh. Like, well, when I got I remember when I was about some people getting passed. Oh, yeah, I was going like, well, they started with me or like, they're in this. Like, how come I'm not getting, you know, when I got, when I got passed, I was like, okay, like it wasn't like, yeah, it was more like. You know, I got it. Like, like, let's like and I feel like that's always been the thing that I see with my life when I get stuff. Yeah, that when stuff that is right. Mm hmm. When you get stuff and you don't celebrate it, I'm like, Whoa. But you're all like, Okay, cool. That's. Yeah, yeah. To me, that's when you're ready. Yeah, well, I feel like when you were too much like, Oh, okay. You know, like you're starting to hmm, Then you maybe not ready. And that's your vibration. And comes up to me is like, because I feel you have to celebrate that. But does that you get a part of something was like, Okay, cool. All right, let's go. Let's take this with us. And yeah. I think, oh, I'm sorry, but I was just thinking, like when I passed in Manhattan, at the comic strip, and I remember being really, like, excited by I talked to Lucian Hold and he was an angel, such a nice guy. and afterward, one of the comics said, Wow, so you're going to start working here now? And I said, Yeah, I guess so. And so what are you going to do with the 15 bucks? And I was like, What? I didn't know. I was like, Oh, Jesus, Really? There's so. So it's not cab fare either. That's because I'm from, you know, coming in from Brooklyn. The most or something. I got into a discussion and I was invited to a discussion when I got paid. This was in L.A. It was a sold out show. It was a small venue, but there were people there, and the price to get it was 22 bucks a ticket, but the comics were paid $10. Yet I can't even afford to get into the show. The price of three fucking ready for another. That's the thing. Yeah, I remember. Well, I had an ex-girlfriend that back when I was starting to win when I left the investment job. And then I started kind of just doing more standup, like, yeah, she couldn't understand that she wasn't part of that. And ah, she went, Oh, yeah, yeah. But she could only say, Why are you doing all this stuff with no money? I think. Yeah, mind me, I was like, Well that's how it is. Yeah. There's I remember to drive San Diego for, you know, 50 bucks and in itself is, is just. But that was part of that. That's part of it. Then I feel like I do feel like we need the comics. Should they get paid more? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But but I think you do need those shows to get better. But yeah, definitely. I mean, like. Yeah, ten bucks. For right in L.A.. I wasn't sold anyway, but I fully talked to the person about that and we came to some like, Kumbaya moment, and I have not been booked. Oh, no, you know what a bunch of shit. Right? So I had to come out. I know that. I have. You know, I have more experience. I Yeah, sometimes I go like to some people, I'm like, Hey, man, you should pay at least something for everything. Yeah. So respect. Yeah, pretty much. It's like, even like. Yeah, 20 bucks or 25 bucks. Yeah. It's not going to change your life, but, I mean, just giving you a little rest. You know something? I'm like, Yeah, it's like, but something you can just. And I. Yeah, it's free. You know, I agree. To New York pays It's y yeah. Yeah, it probably does. Yeah. I can live. Mm. Yeah. I, you know. You can hear. How. No it's impossible money living in, you know just doing comedy. Yeah. Sucks. We ran a show called Hags and we like. That was such a great show. Yeah. The pandemic really killed it. Yeah. And you never really came back. But we did it for free because it just made it easier. I mean, everything. You didn't have to worry about stuff, ticket sales, whatever, anything. But then the only reason we started charging was to pay the comics. Yeah. Mhm. And it was whatever we could scrape together. And then when the venue guy saw us started to charge that he wanted his. Oh and we're like, it's not even for us. Yeah, we're working comics, we're not taking like just to pay the compliments of the people who get the time and stuff. But thank God those days are over for all of us. I first of all, I want to ask Francisco, where were we? Where can people see you next and what is your would you tell us about the Brad Garrett that I know that. I have two shows coming up out of nowhere. Is this guy next Monday? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I've chosen that plan that Atlanta, the February 4th, Seattle, February 16th. So people should just wander around Atlanta. What fucking where are these shows, Francisco I Francisco Ramos. Where do we see you? In Atlanta. Yeah, No, just go to my Instagram or F Ramos comedy or, you know, Google Francisco Ramos comedy on my website to there. All the information there, all the I put all my dates they're clips that I create. And one of. Them is. Yeah, my two grandfather's friends. He's my new That's great. My middle name is my grandfather's name, but William Anthony But I have two. Grandpa Daniel. Daniel. William is so nerdy. That's very. Why. I was. Yeah. Is that colonial? I have. I do like I claim this land furniture store. Daniel, how I do. And what are you going to do to get to. The end of this? So I can I get how can I get this credenza? And by the way, I also have I sell cars. Well. I he's out back. also Bill. Bill. Yeah, man. I'm going to start smoking cigarets again. Like Bill Clinton. And like a country. Oh. Yeah, he's big and now he's. He's just gross. Have you looked so. God. But I'm glad that's one good thing he's done crimes. Yeah. Yeah. That means something to me. I'll take it. Wait. No. So where in Atlanta are you going to be? God damn it. Daniel and I are tangents. Atlanta Comedy Theater. Oh, fantastic. Okay, be. And then. Yeah, Seattle laughs. Laughs a limited or less ethical laughs. And then and then doing march and uh rooster teeth feathers in. I can't believe that's still the name. Yeah, they're there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Or just the name. Yes. Now Sunnyvale, California. But. And then. Yeah, and then I have this, uh, the name of a special school. Um, it's going to be called, uh, Venezuela, American. Venezuela, America. Nice. Uh, obviously a mix of, you know, because even though I was born in Venezuela, I've been there in most of my life, and I feel pretty much America more than Venezuela. But I still got all this because I'm always like in that little bit of in between. And that's going to I don't have a day yet, but I think it's going to be around March and there's going to be a come on on YouTube. Oh, great. I'm going to see on my YouTube. Ah, the £800 gorilla YouTube. I mean, that's crazy cool. Yeah. I'm so glad you could come by. Oh, you're great. I'm so, so great to meet you. And your comedy. But and so it's also just really nice to me. Like, I don't know, I say normal in a bad way, but like, a nice, normal person is like, Oh my God, I don't feel like I'm talking to an absolute. For both of you. I think you feel. Yeah, because it is, you know, as we talk, we're like living in the in the same industry. You know, you meet some people that like and again, that's what I meant in the beginning when I said or when I mentioned before was that when you meet successful people, you go like, Oh, this is why they're know, And I feel like you just you can do that. And I think it takes longer, maybe. Yeah, you could be an asshole in that. But yeah, like, you also want to be happy with yourself and you'll get from where I live, right? Yeah. I don't want to be an asshole just to get to a point, right? Yeah, get to a position. But. But, yeah. Look at that. US on. Honestly, we should just end it because he called us both nights. I know, I know. I. We can't take anything that's not going to be better been than go. Okay? Yeah. Francisco, great meeting you.