"And Now Tomorrow!" with Ron Lynch

We sit down with actor, comedian and host of the "Tomorrow Show!" Ron Lynch. We discuss Ron helping Laura get her start in Boston, 20 years of Tomorrow!, unsolicited tags, speleology, comedy competitions, touch down Jesus, too many tapes, clowning, game shows, Paul Reubens and Ron's secrets

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Laura Kightlinger
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Daniel Webb
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So you want a character the whole. Time, right? Yeah. Whatever you think. Anything over the top. Maybe Donald Duck. So should we start the shit? And now I'm going to have to cough. I, I am so. Daniel, I'm so choked up about this. Guess someone I've known forever. And somehow we're both still alive. And he's brilliant. He helped so many comics, including me at Off the Wall in Harvard Square in Boston. Know who you are, you son of a bitch. Ron Lynch. Without further ado, here he is, the incomparable Ron Lynch. Yeah. Bobby, I. Mean, are we talking. Already? Yeah. Yeah. So it wasn't a hot. Podcast come about. We decided the only way we could become friends is if we started a podcast and tried to monetize it and make it our career. Thank you so much for doing this. Thank you. Yeah. Ron was off the wall in Harvard Square. It was in Central Square. Okay. Which that's where we met, which is. A little further from Harvard Square, where you were going to Amazon at the time. And we, Ron had the coolest place where everybody wanted to perform. And that was really a beautiful. It was like two stories. Well, here's the weird thing, It was at midnight as well. You son of a bitch. That's what I used to be able to stay awake. So was it midnight? Was it midnight? Yeah, when I was after the movies. yeah, movies. And then they gave me the Saturday night I met the guy at a party. Yeah, he's a. What do you do with someone? Do some comedy and stuff? And they said we were just thinking about what if we had comedy? I said, Well, why not? And I said, What time was available when you went well, Saturday at midnight. Is that ridiculous? And I. Well, of course it is, Yeah. Which is what I'm still doing to this day. I know you live by night. Run it by that. You have a show tomorrow, are called to call tomorrow morning. Scuse me. It's been for 20 years. To 20 years is June. Am I. Wrong or. Is that a career living anniversary show on June 1st? Which law is. Doing? Fantastic. We'll have a party afterward. No, that? No. Okay. Now, that gives me some time to cancel. But we do need to talk. No, I want to do it. Or kidding. Okay, We need a tally for how many times Ron Lynch's name has been brought up on our podcast from Comedians Sighting. Your Beloved. Help. Yeah, well. Yeah, I. Love the good people work that they don't get paid for. So you guys back? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Or was it before that? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. We got. We met in the Boston comedy community. Yeah. Been any show, right. We met a we really had to be either the comedy connection or off the wall. Yeah. we were talking to, Greg Fitzsimmons about, Robin Horton and remember, like, he was a dan, he was a show booker at the Catch a Rising Star there. And he would after each comic, you know, got off stage like he'd kind of give him a talk about what he thinks he thought they should change or, you know, I don't know his philosophy on comedy and just, you know, but you kind of had to. The new people. Why not? But yeah, I mean, he was telling doing that to everybody. And I think I would just go, And kind of walk away. Yeah, I would take it with a grain of salt. I mean, who knows? Yeah. You know. There was a club owner in Austin who would do that, and I always knew, and I remember when I, I was the host. Yeah. A joke about being on a plane crash because a plane is just crash that week. And so I thought, why not be topical? It probably did. Cause I was like, maybe save the plane crash if or when you're one of those. And I remember being really like, well, you know, I was like, Yeah, that show share like and now Kightlinger. People died on that plane and. Yeah, but I don't know, I never like unsolicited. Yeah. When someone gives you a tag do you think that's like a you know what I mean. When, when someone was like. get your material. Yeah. How does that make you feel? I don't think that ever happened. I. I don't mind. I think I've given people tags. Ah, yeah, you're funny. Well, thank you. I don't like when people are doing something that's not even amusing. I think it's an intrusion. yeah, I guess it doesn't bother me because I can't remember anything. If somebody does say, I'll go. okay. And then I won't remember it anyway. Yeah. What? How'd you start standup? Well. How did I start? Yeah. I was in the, like, the dressing room and then I would. Yeah. And walk slowly. Yeah. No, I don't know. I really. I don't know. I mean, I started out as a geology guy, and then I switched over to theater. And this is in New Jersey, right? New York, Upstate New York. Upstate New York. City. Geologically speaking. Upstate New York. Wait, Ron. Rochester. Where? In upstate New York? I'll tell you, he asked me asked me the question that I'll tell you. Okay, we're in upstate New York. I'm sorry. It started in Potsdam. I wanted to remember. All the way to the top of New York State. 30 below occasionally. And then went to Binghamton, upstate New, which is near Syracuse. Sure. I know the SUNY schools. I was crawling out of Fredonia State for a few months. Fredonia? I've been there. Yeah, Yeah. We did a fair thing there. And Kozlowski's back in Cortland. right. I know. Yeah, We got a space that built a space. fantastic. That's great. We're not going out there to do a show, you. Know. You're. But you're from. I'm from Long Island, Queens. Long Island. And speaking of geo geology, well, Island is a glacial moraine that was just deposited there. So all of Long Island is not even connected to the United States anyway. There's no bedrock. What is the Marine. Moraine is the is the land that a glacier will push in front of it as it's coming down. And then it kind of stopped where? Long Island. Wow. Long Island. Wild. Yeah, Pretty wild. I always wanted to go up like I want to go to, like, Antarctica or the Arctic, where they're, like, drilling into the deep, deep, deep, deep. I find that fast, right? Yeah, But, like, the only way to get there is you have to be, like, on a lesbian. Cruise or whatever. Well, did the Marine happen? And not that I'm a believer in climate change, but did it was it because of climate change? Basically the glaciers melting and all that? If you call an ice age, then now not an ice age. It is a climate change. But there was an ice age where ice was constantly coming down. It wasn't just one time the ice came down, it came down many times. Pre cars. Yeah. And the animals ran and some of them got away. But yeah, there was, there's been an ice age several times. Have you seen that. There's a video in Greenland. It's the it's the largest cow calving ever caught on tape where the the whole glacier just breaks. It's like all of lower Manhattan just goes and it just smashes there. You that? No, it's breathtaking. Whoa. Scientists have been watching it. Their cameras are on for like 20 days or something. And they're actually on the phone with their boss. They're like, nothing's happening. And then one little thing not of all Whoa. Massive, though. It's like, wow, It's really three times the size of like, what, man? That would be the buildings and stuff, but it's breathtaking and. Yeah, yeah. And you imagine, like an ice age where all that shit was coming on carving land, Great Lakes, and. There will be another ice Age and probably about 10,000, 20. Thousand years. they say that this, this slowing of the ocean currents due to global warming would they can bring think like global warming would bring about an ice age. But we're going to get we're going to stop global warming on this podcast. I hope so. I really hope so. We're on. Real mission. That's why we started this podcast right. Here, this section of it or something. And they may and I'm going to do something. I'm going to stop driving my car. No. Wow. Wouldn't that be That would be amazing. What was your interest in geology? Just like it went from high school. I was president of the Bethpage Mineralogical and Philological Society. You must have gotten laid non stop. Well, there was a stop. You. Know. Now you may ask what is fairly well. That was my. I would wasn't even curious. That is it's cave hunting what which is hilarious because on Long Island there's absolutely no kidding Wow look on and we all took a trip I think there were five of us all took a trip to this cave hunting group on Long Island. And I think we just couldn't stop laughing because. What? Why are you here? They would travel. They would travel. So what did you do? Just say, okay, I guess there's there aren't any here. The meeting. We just tacked it under the name and it sounded pretty cool. okay. Say the word again. Speech. Theological stele, A large. Steel hunk of steel under the name. Yes, Belonging is one thing. Where on earth are the most caves so far? The best podcast I've ever done. What? Where? Where are the most caves? The most caves? The biggest caves. There's a cave. Upstate New York has a Carlsbad caverns. It's in Mexico. in Mexico or in New Mexico? New Mexico. They didn't see me, did they? Yeah. New Mexico has really large caverns. Upstate New York has some. There has to be bedrock, and there has to be erosion due to water. Would this be better if we were stoned, or are you stoned. By our past? And, of. Course, would be better. So there's still lactate and stalagmites? Yes. And what's the difference? One is a bug, right? Okay. Any idea? One comes from above and one comes from below. You know which one is which. Still, I type my. I think that's the leg my stalactite. It's, I think Stalactite comes from the, from this. I think from top Mike from Malone. The clue is the C and the G. There's this. The C is comes from the ceiling, the stalactites. We were. Right stalagmite. No, you're wrong. I thought I said selected comes from above. You are wrong. I was no stalactite. Is it from above. Yes. Yeah. You said. that's the stone. We were right because I remember, I remember. I kind of remember just a a flash, a tiny flash like from a science class of them all coming down and calling that stalactites. That's, that's the only reason. Just one of the many things ingrained in you in teaching. Yeah. Because it hurts our movie Cave of Forgotten Dreams. What? No. It sounds incredible. Explore the Chauvet Co, you know, drawings. I love Herzog. my God. You have to watch this movie. no, Brad. Tape. Wow. It's okay. So it's in France. These three, like, hikers discovered event in the in the hill, and they excavate it. And it's this unexplored cave with these preserved drawings from 30,000 years ago. Whoa. 20,000 years ago. The cave show collapse preserved everything in there. So there's there's cave bears which are extinct, and there's. I know of the film I haven't seen. Yeah, I've seen it because they're the skulls are like crystalline cheese, marble and magic. And they'll be like a footprint from a human footprint from like a wolf. And they don't know if they happened within like hours. They really get. It. Breathtaking. Like. Damn, really. I want to see that. Wow. The geological things that happened inside the cave, because it it being closed off and preserved and everything, because then they closed it off again. They took all these pictures and they mapped it out. And then they won't let humans in because we ruin everything with our breath and just general personnel. Yeah, that makes sense. When did you come to the West Coast? Wait, can we dedicate this whole podcast to Vernon? How about to Werner Herzog? Why did you come to the West Coast? I came out here and a nine. I was in New York. I was going to stay there for a while, and the lured me to the San Francisco comedy competition, which is that evilest thing on earth. Why? I don't know. It's just easy to say that it's a it's a competition of comedy where usually the guy with the guitar and when they win, sure, those people would go, That's talent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're changing a song, right? You're real song making it funny. But also and I think that a lot of those competitions were whoever was voting usually knew somebody in the contest, right? Whoever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like whoever was on the committee. Austin has won is called the Funniest Person in Austin. And people love it and lots of people compete and Austin has a very used to have a wide variety of people. There's a huge spectrum of all kinds of people coming in, but hands out every single time. It was some straight white guy that would win every single. Yeah, just watching it chiseled down diversity. yeah. Same. Just basic to everybody. No disrespect. I would come in Well it's a it was I think 20 people in my half I think it was divide the 40 people and a half. And I came in I think 17 a lot. And one night I came in for the. That's how ridiculous it was. It's. It's really up to the judges. Yeah. Who are deciding who the funniest people. Right? Well, some of them are smart. I'm starting to think that awards are kind of both. Excuse me. I think awards are kind of bullshit across the board. Yeah. I think that. I mean, especially here, like, we, you know, we don't really notice what's going on in the world, and it's all but but we always have time to celebrate ourselves, you know, and and reward ourselves. There weren't that many award shows. Well, how about that? The mark? There's a mark Twain. I believe that people don't know that Mark Twain was a writer. And, you know, Lorne Michaels is on the committee for the Mark Twain Awards and he won one. The way comedy competitions are. Yeah. To make money for a couple of people. Sure. But that anchor that way anchors you and staff up there in the Bay Area or that was. I said I really can't afford to come out. And I think he said, All right, I'll give you a week at a club before that to pay for your trip. featuring at the Walnut Creek Punch Line, which was actually a pretty good club. It's a very rich town, but they had a pretty good sense of humor. It's closed now, but yeah, so I did a week of paid work that kind of pay for the trip. Really? Not really. But. And then do you have any receipts? Christ, what are we even talking about? I'm so goddamn bored. Bored? Do we need a game? Where do you want to play? Well, I'm using this on my taxes. Okay. This has come out. You never. I'm just being mean. Which is? I don't know. I'm really out of sorts today. I've got to be mean. No, no. But messed up all your water. That's what you know. I wish this. Eclipse happened today, and I think it affects all animals except humans. Really? And now that they had the elephants are going now to the zoo. no. no. I don't like it a way. White people were looking in the sky. No, white people were looking up animal. Right. You're going up there to host what is the the silent film I'm. Going to San Francisco this week to host the San Francisco Silent Film Festival, which has been going on for eons. Wow, that sounds great. Have you been hosting it for eons? I won't say hosting. I'm no. I'm in the program as the voice of the silent film festival. I do all the announcing. I bring people on the stage. I I'm going to host and I get the audience involved in the thing a little bit when they don't see me. Looking at a table in the back on the microphone. Do you ever big techs at the state fair of Texas, this huge statue of the stupid cowboy? yeah, I know. That is. I mean, I remember that. Yeah, I went out with that guy. And I forget at some point, he held a record for being the tallest whatever, cowboy. And then there's a live person in a booth separate from the structure of the statue. This guy. Welcome to Texas and all these. So then have you wanted that job? I would kill for that. I just wanted to be the guy who yanked the thing that moved the. yes. I want. Years ago, Big Tex caught fire. he's like fiberglass or something. So he. I went out, but the dude in the booth did not know that he was on fire. So while Big Texas like this and engulfed in flames, the person's gone. How do you all welcome to Texas? I love. I love all on earth. great. Not see it. You couldn't see who had not been alerted yet that it was. he was still reading the script. Yeah, he was just doing a thing. that's awesome. Ohio, they have this thing called They called it Touchdown Jesus. This is in Dayton, Ohio, which is a horrible place. But they it was off the side of the highway in a church, had it in their yard, which was it was I want to see the biggest statue of Jesus in like North America where one of the psychopaths always was. It was thorn crown Jesus tears that love this and two hands coming out of the ground. So get this much of the Jesus. Yeah. And hands coming out of the ground that were like two stories tall. Whoa. Was saying like, touch down, touching Jesus. And that was struck by lightning. Geez. Grant. Wow. Driving on the highway and you see, like, Jesus, like, engulfed in flames, as you know. That seems like more than anything that would be like, you know, a changing of life thing or. Yeah, yeah. Or just like, that's what I mean. I wish things were more like that. Like, that's when I knew I, I couldn't work at Costco anymore or whatever the. yeah, yeah. CVS today. this job. Ron, have you ever stormed out of anything? But. No, but I was fired from the coop. shit. Yeah, I remember that. I was trying to get a job there, but still. I worked at the mic one. I was the record store manager. Slash contingent. no, no. I was only the regular manager when I had that job. And I was making more money for that record department than they've ever made. I used to go down to the Harvard store to get my records a day ahead of time. No, And I did all the paperwork, all the receiving and all that crap, and I got a letter saying to visit with the manager of the store, and I went in and he went, Ron, it just seems like your attitude about the store has changed a lot, and I'm really sorry they want me to let you go. And he was really nice. Yeah, he was making money for the store. Yeah, but they were letting me go because I wasn't going into classes for things that I knew already, like how to receive stuff. What, The class. Because they knew everything and they had classes at the. So instead I would just go downstairs to the record department and get my records in a box and have them sent to my store. Did you go to. I But they wanted you to excuse me. They wanted you to go to these classes as part of the working at the coop. In order for me to become a. Manager. my God. To wow. No desire for that. So. Are you a musician? I can play. Yes, I am. Yeah, he plays. He's amazing. He plays guitar, he plays drums. You do? Yeah. Laura's drums. Yeah. I can't. I haven't a drum. Room, Of course. In his. House. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a piano player. But what records were you buying back? wasn't buying. These are my. this one for my apartment? Yeah. Yeah, the apartment at the other stores. I'm actually working. for the. Same reason I would be, like, purchasing things for myself. well, back on that topic. Since I ran the department, I could take. I had a reel to reel at the time, and this was 1952, I think. And no. I believed. You. That's like, Wait a minute. And I had a reel to reel and I would bring records home, record them, and then bring them back and check and break, get the money back while. Yes. Only do it a lot. But I did it enough where I felt good. Yeah. I. I discovered putting two VCRs together to duplicate. And then you. yeah. Know. Yeah. My family was astonished that I ever came to going to college was that there were two RCA cables. In high quality on the other side. That was it, Right? So you had to learn that lesson because it would be too blurry and all that. But sometimes you try to get three movies on one tape that was. I have a million videotapes. You still do. Do you have do you have a VCR? So I filled three bags, garbage videotapes. Yeah, but I I've been kind of going through ones that I don't even know it's on them. And the best thing about them is the, like, the commercials and announcements. Yeah. And people that aren't around anymore doing things. And do you remember I'm sorry to interrupt, but do you remember Robert Conrad knocked this battery off my shoulder? sure. Yeah, sure. I always thought, what a dick. I want to do that. I want to knock it. Back, but it can take somewhere. Really? I want to, like, knocked something off. Anyway. We had a bunch of agencies from, like, being kids, like my parents would report on cartoons, right? Yeah, for us to watch later. And in some cases my mom would just push record and then walk away. So it would be like one. Episode of 6 hours. Yeah, but then the rest of the afternoon would be on a tape and it would be like there's a Sesame Street where they divided the screen into quarters and they're singing the alphabet song. And then these two there's Muppets, and these two it's Ralph Nader and Barbara Walters. Wow. See the. But then it was part of the like, what is it, 1986, the sesquicentennial. What was that most or what was called the Texas sesquicentennial? Right. so there's all these commercials for like that? I don't know. It was just brilliant. It was like one afternoon in North Texas in like 1987 from. All that shit. I regret giving out those VHS tapes because they were so good. Have a milk commercial. That's two and Adam Anderson. man. yeah. And stuff like that. Come on. Great. The sad thing is, you have to watch a lot of stuff. Yeah. So I'm presently moving out of my apartment where the tapes are, and I'll just stick one in while I'm doing everything. You're going to move into your wife's house? That is correct. I think that would be fine. Yeah. She's letting you do that. Shelly. It's so smart. I'm surprised you would agree to that. Now, there's no tape clause there. She has a plan with me. I don't have to worry about anything in my life. Okay? Yeah, she's so. She's letting you. I mean, I know that you're married, but you're going to live together. I thought we should. Okay. Since there's, like, money things, and. Sure, why not? That's. That's great, though. Where are you going? To where. Where are you guys now? In a town called Glendale. God. Okay, so you're not that far away. Okay. Have you gone to the new theater? I haven't gone to the Quentin Tarantino RedOne Theater here? Yeah, over there. Have you still have nothing? Damn it. I want to go there. To the Cinematheque. Well, I went to the Egyptian. okay. And that's a little sad. Or is. It? The saddest thing is getting back to the silent film thing is that we always did the silent films at the Castro Theater in San Francisco. somebody bought the Castro Theater and they're gutting it. shit. All the seats out in there making it into, like, a music club. Yea. Because it's really the only big old theater in San Francisco. that sucks. Just legendary. It's like living in San Francisco. Yeah. Yeah. So some assholes now. Yeah. So anyway, they are doing it to the Palace of Fine Arts this week. It's a great place. Yeah. Like when they were saying, we don't know where to put you, and there's no. Because we. I was at a table at the back of the audience, but there's no area like back there. I love that spot though. I haven't, I don't know what the theater looks like. I don't think it's, it's like a, it's a wide audience like this. It doesn't go very deep and then there's no aisle in the middle. So if you want to get out of your seat, you have to go. All the way. Wow. So really, we're like, fixed at least the place we performed it. But it's beautiful. I think people really respond as well. It's got to be the same place. I would think. Allison Fine Arts know. We're at the Texas theater, whatever Friday, which is the theater that they busted. Lee Harvey Oswald. my. God. Now it's a performance based, not a movie theater, but I worked at a hamburger place in Austin, Texas, where the manager uncle was the person who called the cops. Wow. Someone just ran to our theater without paying for a ticket, God, we are. Yeah. I know. I love that. She's also the person who told me the ecstasy was free in Dallas. So you can't really trust what she's saying. It's like she's. She's like, You don't know. She was telling me. She's like, You don't even know how good we had it. Sure, her mouth was jerk. Like, This is how much blow she'd gotten over the years. She had like, a like a Coke thing. Wow. That reminds me of the foam of Spalding. I mean, what's his name? Spalding Gray. He remember when he did swimming to Cambodia and he had all the foam on both sides of his mouth? That was from Coke, wasn't it? Yeah. Spalding Gray. Yeah, I know. Spalding Gray, but I. Don't know. Well, I couldn't even watch it because I was like, my God, he's foaming. Yeah, yeah. I there's a midwest interview where I can't listen to it because she's playing with her dentures. no. And also drive you crazy. yeah. She's so smart. And my other very thin. She has like, a wig on. And then on top of another wig, which is on my favorite. Yeah. my God. The hat. Wig. Well, then Joan Rivers joke about Joan Collins. She makes a bunch of rude jokes about her, and she goes, I'm just kidding. I love anyone who wears a wig and then a hat. yeah. The Dick Cavett interview, which unfortunately is only like ten. I love Dick Cavett. She's just the whole time she's playing with her dentures. Yeah, You. Can hear them jostling. I love Dick Cavett. Was he a queen or. No, he's. No, no, I don't think so. I think he's married a couple of times in. New York, too. I mean. Yeah. You know. Maybe Bill better hung out with him a little bit. No. Who're famous people you've met that like. we don't know you. Ha ha ha. In awe of the civilians, but like, who took your who were you shocked with or surprised. Well, somebody that I got excited about was, you know, we've been doing the show forever and Craig and I were down to hosting the thing and this guy had a show at the Steve Allen, I think as well, or with his group. And we should know why I said that in a second. But he was just laughing and like the second row just laughing his head off. So I talked to him after that show and I said, Would you ever want to, like co-host? Because Craig was hosting. And they were. And I was going to have him co-host with me. And he went, Yeah, yeah, sure. And it was Scott Thompson. He's been on our show. And I co-hosted with him. And we were we were backstage and he goes, All right, I want to do this kind of thing. And how do we get into that character for me and everything? I said, Well, you're just co-hosting. Yeah. Ha ha. We're not setting anything up. He wanted to do Body Call. Just say no. I can't. Okay. Let's say it was really cool. I would go, I would go. I would just go. Hey, have you seen Buddy Cole lately? And he went, Are we okay? We could do that. And I totally got the theory, which was, No, no, Vince, you know, just talking and goofing around And backstage were a pile of posters, maybe 20 of them, and the voting was over, but it was vote no on on something. And it and it was I think it was like a gay event of something. And it was really it was important. And so I had a copy of it just stuck by the door and somebody handed it to me. I went, Have you seen this? And he went, Why are those posters in the back room? And he just went off. no. He just went, I got it. I think I figured out what you wanted. It was the best ever. He was The best. Is. Still in touch. Yeah. Yeah, he's great. Yeah. The one time I met him once, and then we were on a show. Happened to be on a show together. And like, a few months later, and it was when he walked through a sign in the car and I was like, I can't believe you just said my name. We so nuts. But we did. He was on a Zoom show during COVID, right? And so we had a long phone call about what he was going to say. He was very particular saying he wanted to make sure everything was like he knew where we were going and then when we got on, didn't do a lick of his care. He's very like we talked for an hour, 45 minutes, is it? And this, he's so as a. Performer, I think it's you want to make sure you have something to go to. Yeah. Then if you don't have to go there, you're better off. Yeah. The crowd is the crowd. It's all through the crowd. I rely on the crowd way too much. Yeah, Sometimes if the crowd is not with me at all, then I have a hard time. Sure. Sometimes. I mean, it's. It's mental. It's mental, too. But, you know, you. You could have something prepared. I think. Now, if I do stand, if I go to the cafe, I go to the club in Austin, I'm going to know exactly what to do. Yeah. But you have such a following here, too. Like I think the audiences all know. You know, it's kind of an established thing. The Midnight show, The Tomorrow Show. You could describe it. The Tomorrow Show. Tomorrow show is a show. The theater has to be behind me. Otherwise I'm going to be broke after three shows because they you know, they have a minimum that the theater needs to get. And my show, the audience is really all over the map, not all of them, but it's always less than 30, I would say. Yeah, until we have like an anniversary show or something. And then, of course, I have famous people on the show, but I don't do that on Saturday. I usually just put talented people on the show. You know, I have we have a good time. I want to make sure it's a good time. And I also I'm afraid to invite somebody pretty important to come to the show. And if I only have 8 to 9 people show up or something, it doesn't matter to them. But those eight or nine people are always great at this show. It's always fun. It's it's loose, it's very low pressure. So people try a lot of weird stuff. Yeah, there's a thing in comedy now and I'm not. I'm not I'm telling people that not YouTube, but I mean, it's called Clown not clowning but clown, correct? Yeah. And it should be clowning because that's a word. Yeah, the clown is the word too. But it's a anyway and that's. Are you for or against. Are you. Clown. It's funny. I am. I think I'm for it. Totally Like the answer generally like Natalie. Tell me this, Christina. Yeah, I know all that. Yeah, they are all show. Yeah. Yeah, they're All clown or clown and Jason. Yeah, with Charles laughing. Chad Damian, That guy. Yeah, Yeah. There's a clown movement. Clown scene. And part of the scene is functioning because of Chad. I mean, Chad keeps it going, and Chad teaches and he knows what's happened, so they'll have shows to. So you do bits that are over the top there. Yeah. Okay. No restrictions. I mean, there's people have been doing it already for years, but it's more, more off the top of your head and more crazy. A clown usually has a bit that they're doing and they're dressed as a clown. Clown people don't see. It doesn't make any sense Having that same word for clown. People that do clown don't. If anything, they just dress in comfortable clothes. So I just feel like it's a lot of screaming. Is it spoken? You're allowed to talk or. No, Some are spoken. Yeah, they do a silent clown thing, too. clubhouse overall in that parking lot mall place. Because I feel like some of this stuff is is you know what? I was at the show and I felt like it's all I've got to call volume comics like people like screaming at the audience and I don't know I've never liked that kind of thing. You know what I mean? You need similar mime acts. No, no, but just being really loud and. Come on, you guys, you know, that kind of shit. And I'm just like. You're forcing the. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And you're just screaming at people until they. Laugh off the audience. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. Like it. I can take one thing and run with it. Yeah. Do a full 10 minutes of that. And the audience is kind of laughing the whole time. So it's kind of. Is it? It's kind of like improv. Kind of, right. It's a yeah, Yeah. It's rooted in everything else that's already existed. okay. Yeah, right. But everything is. Yeah. I mean, I've never gone to clown college, but I have that stupid magic character that I do. Sure. I mean, we're doing it in New York once and after the show, like a couple of people with. So you what? You a crowd. We went to clown school. That was like a clown a clown character, right? I went, well, I guess it is. Yeah. It's a ridiculous costume, right? Yeah. And chips were these chips. Clooney was doing that to see, Right. Yeah. You guys, did you ever do it together. Do the like the magic act thing? No. When I did the I did we did a pilot on comedy Central with Louie. okay. He was doing in New York. All right. You see me, there was a photo and he didn't want me to do a couple of the tricks. a similar to a I wasn't thinking of him at all. that's so funny. But he said, you can't do that. So I had to come up with, like, two other magic type of thing. Yeah. of thing where he would have like the glass on the table. Yeah. He would cover it with. All right then just hit it. right, right, right. And I think I had something like that. Well, can you not do anything? Why do I, like. I can't. Even if I could minimize it as much as I can. Yeah, Yeah, that's cool. We went and saw a professional magician, but it was at a church to watch this amazing magic show. And then the last 20 minutes were like a full sermon. Yeah. no. that's so awful. With witchcraft. And then. Like, the end of the world. Yeah. man. What about all the, you know, the. I guess they're kind of. They're feeling like they maybe their popularity is waning or something, but Russell Brand and Mark Wahlberg finding God and like. the God on t talk it's He says stay blessed or stay prayed up. That's what he prayed up. Yeah he has because he's rich. He has is he came up with the cool thing. He's Well it's online right Of course. So it's on like tik-tok and shit. So he shows at his own. How does Mark Wahlberg. He's rich. He has a pavilion in his house with this big giant cross. I have got him. While someone videotapes them praying, and then he turns to the camera and goes, Stay, prayed up, or stay blessed or whatever wanted to do. Yeah, And Mario Lopez does it. Sometimes they'll do it together. Yeah, man. That's his way of posturing. It's very showy. Yeah, I don't know. It's very evangelical. That sounds like clowning. More like clowning to me. Yeah, that's more like. That's clowning. It's very leap of faith. That's all I can think of. I just see Steve Martin, like, from hustling. Yeah, Yeah. And blazer. Yeah. Like, just dress it up like that. yeah, yeah, yeah. Why are we. Why are we taking it away from that? That's the thing. Like we're talking about game shows and you're talking about like Match Game and, and I like that era. I love, like, eighties. yeah, Yeah. I watch the church channel a lot, too. So, like this Jimmy Swaggart revival. Yeah. From the eighties and the seventies. And they all have that look. It looks like matching same colors. Kind of brownish. Orangish. Yeah. Everyone's hair's the same. Yeah. What are you. You're just recently in the game shows I think I've been watching men's game for a while. Wow. While they do the dishes or something. It's never me. What? What? Sitting there? Only my phone. Like this is the over there in the background with. I hope it's not because it's. There's a lot of politically incorrect stuff on the show. So yeah I wish that wouldn't happen today. Yeah. And you kind of put some things in perspective, especially me, because I've been around for a little while and I watch the show, they'll they'll say something about women or whatever, and it goes right past me. And then I think, Well, that would never be said. Yeah, that would. Never be said. Well, imagine, though, it's such a suggestive show like, I know. Yeah. I love Charles Manson. Right? There's a clip not from him, but from him on a sitcom where someone yells at him and he has a There's a flower right there. Yeah. Think of matter. Not in front of my car and. It's it's not like the people see that you that were funny but didn't realize that they were gay. Like. But like, I didn't know that. Paul Lynde, I guess I didn't know about people being gay, you know. No, I didn't know that, like. Until I went to college and started dating a lot of gay guys. But laws earlier, early sexual prowess was what we call gay conversion therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Churches. Yeah. I know. You said I used to have. A gay son in law, so. I know I used to have a bit about, that you're not gay. Like I was a TSA agent for gay people. That you're not gay until you go through me first at the airport. yeah, but, like, of the was somebody that I was just thinking, like, even I didn't know that Freddie Mercury or any any of those guys. Were my favorite thing about Queen is because they're super popular. Yeah, they really did. They have wide appeal There's not just they're not niche necessarily night at the Oscars one of the greatest albums ever. I cannot get over that record, but I feel like Freddie Mercury tricked a bunch of straight guys into liking him. Yeah, he's bisexual, right? There's not fully gay. Like, think of a man with an earring and who dies of AIDS. And, you know, in the eighties, convincing all those straight guys that it's okay to like him. Yeah. And the name of the band is Queen, but you don't even put it. You don't even put together. Literal and subversive at the same time. Yeah. Just love that era. I feel like people are too. I don't know. Yeah. I go back far enough. Where? In high school. I don't even know who was gay. Yeah. Yeah, In high school? Yeah. Right in my slowly doing theater in college, you know, started realizing some people are really the F. Yeah, it's theatrical. I remember my mom dating this guy and me back then to, like, gay men were just bachelors, like she was seeing this band, and. And I was like, Mom, how come? So how come, you know, Tom has never been married? I don't know. He's just, you know, been busy with his. Her friend, fixed up her. Her friend's brother went out with my mother, and he was just, you know, really nice and whatever. And it's just a been a bachelor, that's all, you know. And so he knew. A bachelor covered in turquoise jewelry. No, he was just dressed really plain. I don't know. Yeah. Dog. Yeah. Yeah. Who owned and somehow owned an antique store that had something to do with it? I don't know why. Yeah, but it's so crazy. Weird that when you're talking about clown and clowning, all I could think of was my grandmother was a huge Red Skelton fan, and she had the prints of the Red Skelton clowns hanging our house. Wow. Yeah. She had one like a case, which is has a glass case now. So bizarre. Like a showcase, Right. That had clown. dolls, like figurines. Figurines. They were involved. Yeah. Those that really rotate and shit. That he made them. Or. No, no, the paintings she had were, were Red Skelton like that. And it was. That's kind of scary. 100 is scary. Yeah. Visit their house. We're on the inflatable mattress on the floor in the living room. So you're surrounded by the clowns. But then the crazy thing was they would. They had lava lamps. They were Vegas people. They're so strange, but they were in their 70, you know. Yeah. Fire up a lava lamp in the in the room, which was exciting and I'll never forget we showed that their house the night that Paul Reubens was arrested, which is, which was a media storm. But when they his mug shot was so different than his Pee-Wee character, which was happening, helping him, right? Yeah. So and as a kid, that was that was a striking contrast. And that's when they showed it. And I remember it was me on the inflatable mattress with the lava lamp and the clowns. And now Pee-Wee looks like this. What am I doing? man. He's somebody who I met at a at the. Well, what is it called? The theater. That the people that run the Magic Castle. It's Brooklyn. Brooklyn. And it's in their house. Wow. It is a small, little, like, vaudeville theater. Whoa. And Where is in Santa monica? I think I heard about this. Then. They're really wealthy couple. Well, they were. Well, I think two of the two people that ran the Magic Castle had passed away. I might be wrong. no. One of the guys has died. yeah, And the the theater was great, and they. It's just by invitation. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just a bunch of kind of semi-famous people. A whole bunch. And Paul Reubens would go there all the time. I got really excited that I could actually meet him. So, I mean, I thought it was good. wow. I got to meet him. That's cool. Yeah, he did not talk in the voice? No. Yeah, of course not. What was his voice like, though? Similar. It was even higher. No. Why would that be great? But. my God. Yeah. We left New York City with Playhouse. it's so good. I know it. Amazing. Like, stands the test of time. It is singular, it has its own. And the other thing is that from the job, they have a clear mission statement. Like they really do it, though it's not, you know, people fumble the first thing they do or whatever. First few, whatever. I'm so locked into his show. And Laurence Fishburne was the cowboy, right? Curtis and Phil Ha. I was in the club show. oops. Right. He just made the TV show. I mean, there's one more super famous person on there. I forget. Anyway, I was the No, you need to watch it. So good. I remember watching as a kid and being like, this is what drugs are going to be like. I know. Who was I? It was mousy brown. It was a Julie Brown. No, no, not it was the character that was that was like, that was like, Jackie Brown. But she like, was really passive aggressive and I mean, I mean, take your money and but unless you don't have it is a good time. Okay? You know, making up a character never. Usually grounds it. Yeah. Yeah. I was down downtown Julie Brown and then just Julie Brown. I thought why Julie Brown was actually Julie Tenuta. So every time I thought Julie Brown, I would get really excited. And then slowly pretty, I was like, Wait a minute, where is she? She's not funny. I thought they were the same. Well, this is filtered out. Why? Let's call it a day. Ron. Where So where is this? If this comes out in two weeks? Well, anyway, we can always. People can find your show. Where? Where do I mean, are you rom-com or what is it tomorrow night? You are wrong. You know. I mean. I couldn't have. I don't want anybody looking at the internet to find out about. okay. So is there a mailing list people could get? Do you have a problem. Manual tomorrow with Brown? Lynch is an Instagram site. Great. Yes. And it's going to. It's at the election theater. Yeah. Every Saturday at midnight, 1944, Riverside Drive. Fantastic tastic. Musicians. And in Texas, he's a musician and he refuses to have any modernity. He has a P.O. box booked and sells his record. Wow. I love that. Yeah, that's cool. Well, just when you listen to the physical address was like, I don't think I've heard someone give me it without just telling you to go myself and look it up. You know. I always I always add it to anything I do on the internet to address that. Yeah. that's great. I got the 0.01. Go yourself. Yeah, Just go yourself. Yeah, Yeah. Because I had some of. go ahead. I don't really. Come on. Brian's off a secret. I don't. Wow, that was too much pressure. No, you know, here's what I think. Too many. Too. As. As you know, when someone says, Can you keep a secret when you're a kid, that's like a bond. That's. I like this boy or I like the or, you know, someone says, you know, and it's kind of something sweet. But now it's just you have to say, No, I can't keep a secret because it's going to be something awful. It's going to be something about somebody somebody. But yeah, instead of can you keep a secret, it's like, Do you want to hear some? Really? Yeah, I don't. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't want that. I don't want that guilt on my shoulder. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Ron. You're welcome. Thank you. yeah, I'm. I don't know what the concept of this podcast is, but, it's pretty fun. Yeah. Friends. Just friends. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Thank you. My show. Bye bye.